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Hi, I've just joined a Dark Ages reenactment group - 400ad to 750ad - and I'm basing my character in Early Saxon so between 400 and 600ad. I'm finding everything but the shoes it relatively well documented but I can't for the life of me find an early period-specific Saxon shoe pattern. Everything is either Bronze Age or Viking Era.

Can anyone help?

Kind regards, Raven

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Even if I can´t help you with a direct information, it might be interesting to have a look at the book "Stepping through time". I know that it is quite expensive (the reason I don´t own it yet) But exspecially if you are doing stuff like that more often, exspecially shoes, it might be worth the money. Depends on you ^^

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Does your group's dressing guide not include an acceptable footwear guide? It should, a clothing and footwear guide is the first thing any half capable group should produce. If they don't, then I suggest you look at guide from a longstanding group known for its accuracy, like Angelcynne (their clothing guide can be found here, http://mahan.wonkwang.ac.kr/link/med/england/anglo-saxon/culture/dress.html).

Honestly, Saxon/Angle/Anglo-Saxon footwear is a rough topic as there's just simply not much to go on. We've got a load of archaeological remains from before that period and a mountain from the periods after, but that time span is slim especially in regards to leather and textile items. I second the suggestion on " Stepping Through Time", unfortunately it won't quite give you what you're looking for.

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Well, sadly I know, that not all groups are trying to be really historical oriented (as I think that´s the (main) point in reenactment). But its good to know, that the book isn´t about that area, too. Might save the TO some money in this case ;)
Besides that I got to mention that your link doesn´t work. Maybe you´d like to fix it ? ;)

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That's odd, I checked it before I posted and it was working, it's definitely not now. Apparently that was their old site, here's the info from the new one, http://www.angelcynnreenactmentsociety.org.uk/home/pagan-anglo-saxon-clothing. Sorry about that.

Angelcynn is one of the more exacting Anglo-Saxon reenacting groups, If you note, their section on footwear gives suggestions for styles around their time period, but no examples from that period.

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This is quite a small group and we're only the 2nd lot who are going Saxon, most are Byzantine, Hun or Norwegian. They are very good on clothing but I'm the first leatherworker to join :P so the first thing they asked was when could we have a shoe workshop! There's a lot of research going on at the moment but so far it's either before or after that we're able to find.

Kind regards, Raven

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The two examples shown on the Angelcynn site are based on extant examples of net style shoes which date to just before the Migration period and may have carried over into the MP. The info here, http://www.heatherrosejones.com/shoesnettop/, is a bit old but still good and they give a pattern for at least one type which should be adaptable for other styles.

If this is the first time you've made footwear then I should warn you that you're likely in for a lot of frustration, though the net style shoe is a bit more forgiving fitment wise than closed style moccasins and shoes.

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If you searched a bit I bet you already found it but you have Marc Carlson's page "Footwear of the Middle Ages" which is a good (free) starting point for both building instructions and patterns lookalike (the images are not actual patterns but mostly silhouettes of what your pattern should look like). Here it is : http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/shoe/SHOEHOME.HTM

In free resources you also have a huge paper called Leather and Leatherworking in Anglo-Scandinavian York which was released by the York Archeological Trust. It contains an extensive chapter about the shoes (but maybe a bit late for your period) : http://www.yorkarchaeology.co.uk/resources/AY17-16-Leather%20and%20leatherworking.pdf

I confirm that Stepping through Time is the Bible of historical footwear and well worth its price (if you want I can check what it has for your period). More affordable you also have the book Shoes and Pattens : http://www.amazon.com/Shoes-Pattens-Medieval-Excavations-London/dp/0851158382 which is good but less complete.

If you need I have made a pattern for York Type III that I can share in svg so you can adapt it to any size you want.

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It looks that I cant attach svg files here so I uploaded it on my server. There you are : http://www.latelierdowen.fr/doc/tuto/type3_44_A2.svg . For info this one correspond to (French) size 44 and needs to be printed on a A2 sheet of paper. But you can resize it to any size you want ! If you don't know any softwares for drawing svg I recommend Inkscape (the one I used to make this pattern) which is free. The green triangles should align. You can use some thick felt to make a prototype and check the sizing.

If you have more questions about turnshoes construction do not hesitate to ask !

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