How To Achieve This, Threads Of Different Colors

[Macca]

Lol, ok

You have seen the craftsmen assemble the pieces

You have not seen them stitching the lining by hand because they don't, they use a machine as the picture clearly shows

Want another clue ?

Look at the stitch angle

The hand stitched parts have the normal saddle stitched slant, the machine stitched parts are reversed (& no, before someone jumps in, they don't use reverse pricking irons)

Want more evidence, compare the stitching above the logo (the machine stitched part) to the attached handle

Completely different, one machine, one by hand

[kidinsky]

Lol, ok

You have seen the craftsmen assemble the pieces

You have not seen them stitching the lining by hand because they don't, they use a machine as the picture clearly shows

Want another clue ?

Look at the stitch angle

The hand stitched parts have the normal saddle stitched slant, the machine stitched parts are reversed (& no, before someone jumps in, they don't use reverse pricking irons)

Want more evidence, compare the stitching above the logo (the machine stitched part) to the attached handle

Completely different, one machine, one by hand

I have seen them hand stitching the kelly bag in both exhibitions, if not, what do they need the Blanchard pricking iron for?

and i don't know how to assemble a piece without stitching. glue them, you mean?

the stitching line above the logo, is done by using the reverse pricking iron, unfortunately.

we have enough high end brands promoting their craftsmanship but only using sewing machines, such as LV, GUCCI, MULBERRY.

Hermes is the only one (well known commercial brand) on the market that insisting hand stitching most of their bags, this is why it takes a craftsman 3 to 4 days to finish a birkin bag. and the availability of hermes bags are not comparable to other brands.

i am sure i cannot convince you by saying more in this post, so maybe you can visit Hermes exhibition when it comes to your country and talk to the craftsman.

[Macca]

you are simply wrong, maybe you should look at the evidence, you even asked yourself, how is this lining stitched by hand, answer, its not, its not possible & even looks like its machine stitched. There is no saddle stitch technique that can give different coloured stitching on either side.

I have handled enough Hermes items to spot the machined parts

You have see leatherworkers assemble the finished parts, including stitching the panels together (by hand), but the linings & other parts are machine stitched.

machine stitched above the logo, handle attached by saddle stitch, locking straps are also machine stitched, its pretty obvious

Need more ?

http://forum.purseblog.com/showpost.php?p=21133261&postcount=77

reply from Hermes posted even stating machine & hand are both used on Kelly & Birkins

They don't like to publicise this obviously, for some reason the thought of a completely hand stitched item seems to help them justify the price.

[kidinsky]

you are simply wrong, maybe you should look at the evidence, you even asked yourself, how is this lining stitched by hand, answer, its not, its not possible & even looks like its machine stitched. There is no saddle stitch technique that can give different coloured stitching on either side.

I have handled enough Hermes items to spot the machined parts

You have see leatherworkers assemble the finished parts, including stitching the panels together (by hand), but the linings & other parts are machine stitched.

machine stitched above the logo, handle attached by saddle stitch, locking straps are also machine stitched, its pretty obvious

Need more ?

http://forum.purseblog.com/showpost.php?p=21133261&postcount=77

reply from Hermes posted even stating machine & hand are both used on Kelly & Birkins

They don't like to publicise this obviously, for some reason the thought of a completely hand stitched item seems to help them justify the price.

OK, something new for me, a bit disappointing but what can i say.

i guess now making a bag fully hand stitched will only push the price to an unreachable level.

[Macca]

Don't be disappointed

The cost of Hermes is not down to an extra few hours hand stitching or not, bags ranging from 10K to 100K are not priced based on the number of hours to make

Things they do better than anyone are styling & the leather they use, those & great marketing !

Edited December 7, 2014 by Macca

[kidinsky]

Don't be disappointed

The cost of Hermes is not down to an extra few hours hand stitching or not, bags ranging from 10K to 100K are not priced based on the number of hours to make

Things they do better than anyone are styling & the leather they use, those & great marketing !

There is another point i want to make in this discussion, the pursuit of perfection is endless, but when it's beyond certain point is it still necessary?

I have heard several craftsman complaining about Hermes products, stitching is not perfect, etc.

I am sure there are craftsman that can do a better job than Hermes craftsman, and i am also quite sure Hermes are capable of achieving better quality by investing more time on each bag or set higher quality standard. but

by focusing more on styling and leather quality will be for sure more effective to make their products more desirable.

this is also the reason why some good craftsman can achieve perfection in craftsmanship but never managed to bring their products to a commercial success.

[DavidL]

perfection starts to become not necessary once theres no "noticeable" difference in perceived quality, in this case machine stitch because of the extreme time it takes to make a bag. It is acceptable that its machine stitch as most luxury bags are. there are more pros to use machines than cons and the fact that they keep it secretive helps. Once they change too much and people start to notice than it hurts the handmade bag value.

A majority of the quality and value is from the heritage and most likely the amount of celebrities, tv references, customer service, sending the bags to get the conditioned every few month, having the store in the high end tourist area in the best corner.

The product is regarded as art by the people buying and they are reaching for emotional/status needs rather than focusing on price. Buying a bag for 100k for its features is unlikely as there are bags for 200 dollars that do the same thing. Buying a bag and regarding it as an art piece that holds social value is more likely.

[Tramps Leatherworking]

Anyone who would pay 10k for a bag, has more money than sense...