OLDNSLOW Report post Posted March 25, 2016 are they worth it even at a low cost? Is there any true benefit to running one a cobra 4 or cowboy machine? I have seen a low cost one at Weaver that is magnetic that it would allow it to sit on top of the head but even for the low cost is there any worth while returns in the expense? I can think of a few but not sure if they really work or is it all hype, the plus that I can see is that it would cause less fraying as the thread starts to go through the needle, but does it truly help when the needle is working its way in and out of thick leather. Thanks O n S. and when will the site be back to its normal self I found my self jonesing until I found the back way in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted March 26, 2016 Certainly! when the "original" lube pot runs at 100 $ or more it worth a shot. That is if the magnet is strong enough, it's very much thread tension on these 441 machines. Anyway, I use the original pot for silicon lube, cooling the large/long needle that often gets to hot. An other option would be an air needle cooler. You can use Gottaknow´s patent, using a thin kopper pipe and squeeze the end to make the right amount of air coming true. You need a compressor of course, many already have them in their workshop. Just clamp the pipe to the machine head using tape sockets etc. and angle/direct it to cool the needle. Tor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OLDNSLOW Report post Posted March 26, 2016 I did some further research after posting the question here and should have done it is reverse, but I saw the postings that were made referring to an air nozzle that would cool the needle, my only problem is the lack of air compressor. So I think for now the oil pot would have to be the way to go for me, I have seen them at Weaver and understand another company carries them as well, and for the pot and the oil it might be a cost of 25.00 and that is something I can live with for the time being. Thanks for the response. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted March 26, 2016 Remember that silicon usually do not mix well with paint, I do coloring before using this silicon lube. I'm installing a air nozzle later too, I have air on foot lift etc. Tor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites