Quilting cotton on this leather machine

[m9andg27]

Hi! I've been thinking about getting a leather machine but I’m a little afraid because I’m just getting into leather. I've found a machine as in the picture. I think it's a double feed since the needle doesn't move. He wants USD$566 for it (imported things here they usually mark up 40% so I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a good price, but there's nothing I can really do.)

Anyway my question is if I were to buy this machine could I also quilt cotton quilts on it? That being the top pieced fabric, the batting, and back fabric, so three layers of cotton one of them thick. 

My regular machine has a walking foot attachment to keep the three layers in the same place but it doesn't work great. I imagine this would work wonderfully if it didn't tear the fabric.

Does anyone have any experience? Right now I quilt more than I do leather because working with leather is really hard on my Janome Jem Gold 660.

Thanks a lot!

[bikermutt07]

Never fear the machine experts will be along shortly.

[brmax]

Yes I can imagine being on an island, everything can have a seriously different price.

For best replys a model number on that machine in the photo would be more accurate.  In my other opinion a needle feed would be good for your other sew needs but a bit heavier for the leather and this would move the need up to a compound feed or sometimes termed walking foot style. just my 2 cents and that wont buy bubble gum.

good day

[m9andg27]

1 hour ago, brmax said:

Yes I can imagine being on an island, everything can have a seriously different price.

For best replys a model number on that machine in the photo would be more accurate.  In my other opinion a needle feed would be good for your other sew needs but a bit heavier for the leather and this would move the need up to a compound feed or sometimes termed walking foot style. just my 2 cents and that wont buy bubble gum.

good day

As far as I can tell it is a Mitsubishi DY-3xx series. I'm not sure if it is a DY-340 or a DY-350. or something similar. It is old and was made in Japan.

[TinkerTailor]

There are so many clones and parts made in taiwan, many of them are better quality than the chinese equivalent. It always surprises me when people who live there have troubles getting a machine....

With the machine you pictured, and i am not a mitsubishi guy. There does seem to be parts available like feet and things, and it likely will sew cotton without too many troubles. 

Unless you trust the seller and he is willing to stand behind it, I would get a second opinion as to the wear on that machine. It has had the needle plate replaced and has been fully repainted. The model tag was not put back on after repaint.  It may have just gotten scratched up in storage, or it may have run tens of millions of miles of thread in a dirty garment factory. It may be in adjustment now and working now, but worn out machines can be a nightmare to tweak into working again if there is a problem. Also, new replacement parts sometimes wont work in a worn out machine because the old parts have worn into each other and the new one doesn't play nice.

Finding replacement feet and bobbins are one thing, internal parts may be another story entirely

Plus everyone knows that on an old mitsubishi, you have to change the seals on the turbo or it will leak oil into the intake........

[m9andg27]

On 10/15/2016 at 9:23 PM, TinkerTailor said:

There are so many clones and parts made in taiwan, many of them are better quality than the chinese equivalent. It always surprises me when people who live there have troubles getting a machine....

With the machine you pictured, and i am not a mitsubishi guy. There does seem to be parts available like feet and things, and it likely will sew cotton without too many troubles. 

Unless you trust the seller and he is willing to stand behind it, I would get a second opinion as to the wear on that machine. It has had the needle plate replaced and has been fully repainted. The model tag was not put back on after repaint.  It may have just gotten scratched up in storage, or it may have run tens of millions of miles of thread in a dirty garment factory. It may be in adjustment now and working now, but worn out machines can be a nightmare to tweak into working again if there is a problem. Also, new replacement parts sometimes wont work in a worn out machine because the old parts have worn into each other and the new one doesn't play nice.

Finding replacement feet and bobbins are one thing, internal parts may be another story entirely

Plus everyone knows that on an old mitsubishi, you have to change the seals on the turbo or it will leak oil into the intake........

The problem is that there is no local demand for the items. The Janome factory is twenty minutes from my house but i can't buy one of their particular model's I want anywhere. 

What are some of the Taiwan clone companies that make them? Perhaps i could visit the factories and try to convince them to sell to me.

Thanks!

[brmax]

What is in demand there?, other than that very interest.

There must be dealers over there, surely you would not have to go through an importer.

Have a good day there

[m9andg27]

27 minutes ago, brmax said:

What is in demand there?, other than that very interest.

There must be dealers over there, surely you would not have to go through an importer.

Have a good day there

Local people don't get into crafts, so i can't go pick up a consumer machine. And i don't quite know how to get into the market for an industrial machine. There is only one small craft store that i know of in my city of 1.3 million people. Bicycle riding is pretty big, but mostly people do nothing. They go to work and go to department stores or parks on the weekend. The guy I buy my leather from doesn't even have a machine and he couldn't tell me the name of one person who might be helpful... It's really quite sad...

[TinkerTailor]

Chikon is Taiwanese and makes Adler, Seiko and Juki clones, as well as others . http://www.chikon.com.tw/product.htm

 

[m9andg27]

12 hours ago, TinkerTailor said:

Chikon is Taiwanese and makes Adler, Seiko and Juki clones, as well as others . http://www.chikon.com.tw/product.htm

 

So the the  CK- 8BL is a clone of the Consew  206RB? I just sent the company an email to ask about buying it here in Taiwan. I couldn't find any local results in the internet marketplace..

[TinkerTailor]

If I am correct, The consew 206 RB is a clone of the Seiko 8bl machine, which came first. This chikon machine has 8-bl in the name so it looks like a clone of the seiko, which should be the same as a 206 Rb.........The sewing machine cloning thing is so confusing sometimes......who copied who......

 

Edited October 17, 2016 by TinkerTailor

[m9andg27]

Well the 

On 2016-10-15 at 7:23 AM, TinkerTailor said:

 

Unless you trust the seller and he is willing to stand behind it, I would get a second opinion as to the wear on that machine.

Well, that company didn't work out. They only do exports and even though it is a Taiwanese company they do their manufacturing in China. As far as this machine in the picture i confirmed that it is a DY-350. He said that the parts that it is running great and that i could use it everyday and then leave it to my kids. And even if there is a problem he said he would do most repairs for free. He will set it up and let me try it out in a few days. Any tips on what to look for since I've never used one before? Thanks so much for the help so far!

(by the way the US$566 includes the table, motor, and everything totally setup and delivered to my house. I don't know if that makes it a good deal or not.)

[Darren Brosowski]

Try contacting Meta in Taiwan sales_c@miketony.com.tw for parts and feet. The machine uses the U192/U193 feet and there are many types available

Price is dependent on supply and demand so if there are very few machines on the market that may well be a reasonable price.