Zapee Report post Posted November 6, 2016 Hello! First of all, sorry if my english is not too good. I already have a Singer 18-3 shoemaker sewing machine. I live in Hungary, in my country there are not so many used leather sewing machine for sale. I love handsewing leather, but a want to make belts and bigger backpacks with sewing machine (with thick thread). Recently I bought a "big" heavy duty machine. The machine type: Claes 223-2 (this machine was built in 1973. in Germany) It has a very large bobbin and it can sew with the thickest thread (sorry I dont understand the US sizes of the threads, in metric i sew with a number 10 thread (its very thick)...). I want to buy bobbin for this machine because I have only one. I already sent an email to the "new" Claes company but I haven't got any answer yet. The size of the bobbin: 2,54 cm * 3,0 cm in metric. Thank you for the help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TinkerTailor Report post Posted November 6, 2016 Looks to be the same bobbin that comes in juki 441 style clones and also the Adler 205-350. Mine measures 23mmx30mm. The diameter is exactly 7/8" and the width is1-1/4". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zapee Report post Posted November 6, 2016 Thank you for the fast reply! I measure it again! (I measured with a ruler... it's not so perfect i think). I will look up for the juki 441 and adler machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TinkerTailor Report post Posted November 6, 2016 There are a bunch of the juki clone makers. Cobra,cowboy,artisan,techsew,,and many others. The real adler or juki parts are going to be more money. If it is this bobbin, you can get the cloned parts in many places. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zapee Report post Posted November 6, 2016 My next problem, i need to find a store where I can buy these bobbins (Juki 441 looks like the same i think, thanks for ThinkerTailor for the info) outside from the US, because the high shipping cost from there to Hungary. If somebody can show me an alternative "chinese" or something site i would be very happy! Thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TinkerTailor Report post Posted November 6, 2016 If these guys dont have parts they know who will: http://www.sieck.de/en/machines/ Now its tea time for me... and when i say tea i really mean "Sunday tea" which has a significant bit more whisky than the other teas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zapee Report post Posted November 7, 2016 Thank you for the info TinkerTailor! A bit more whisky, haha Have a nice day! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
