Fiebing's Black dye rubbing off

[CaptQuirk]

The only wax was on the thread, and I don't use silicon on anything. The only oil would have been from my fingers. So, nothing comes to mind. I usually treat my leather carefully, just to make sure it doesn't get scratched or stained by anything. I have it rolled up in the paper that it was wrapped with, and even put a plastic bag over the ends when I store it between use. I wipe it down pretty well with oxalic acid, or barkeeper's friend in this case, before dying. The only other thing that might be a culprit, would be the rubber cement between the two layers of leather. But I am careful to keep it only on the flesh side, and not globbed on to where it might suck through. I have been doing things this way for a while, and never had the dye rub off like this.

[TinkerTailor]

1 hour ago, OLDNSLOW said:

with the oil base I don't believe that there will be the problem experienced with the USMC, I have done brown bases as well prior to a black usmc coat and still had problems so not sure what the answer is other than to try oil or alcohol.  And as a thought I would think that a blue base would work better but have not looked for a blue dye.  keep in mind that with the oil dye if you want you can still cut that with denatured alcohol to make it stretch.

There is absolutely no oil in oil dye. The MSDS sheets don't lie. If you want to see, look them up. Oils must to be listed in the ingredients on the MSDS because they affect the flammability of the product....Both the regular and the pro oil dyes are spirit based and can be thinned with alcohol.

The problem here is not the dye, it is the leather not accepting it evenly.

Come to think of it, i wonder if the additional alcohol in a 50/50 cut of the dye would aid in dye penetration? May be work a try. Dip dying will also help with penetration, but may lead to over application problems on the areas that are not a problem by the time you dip it long enough to soak into the unruly areas...

[OLDNSLOW]

That's why I thought that he could try another section and how it takes the dye, I learn and experience something different with each cut of leather and how each responds to dye, clear coats or burnishing edges. you might find yourself having to trash a build even though it hurts like heck when things don't go the way you thought it should.

[CaptQuirk]

I only have a few square feet of this leather left, so if I have any need to do black again, I'll try a 50/50 with rubbing alcohol? I'm also going to try the Pro Oil dye, and see how that works. So far, I have done 2 or 3 holsters with this side, and only the black one had issues. The brown ones came out fine, no issues at all. Incidentally, the SOB holster I posted earlier, is the one in question, and it was only a few spots, one in particular was dime sized, and very stubborn. The SBH holster I also posted earlier today, is from the same side, and from right next to where I cut the black holster.

[Jimmy McLaughlin]

I just had the same problem with Angelus black dye. Try giving your leather a light coat of  oil and let dry overnight. The leather excepted the dye better, but I still had to buff off a lot of pigment. Their black dye is really black.Hope this will work for you.

Jim