Adler 69 vs Seiko LSC-8BV

[AlexandreP]

12 hours ago, Constabulary said:

Pfaff 335, Adler 69, Seiko LSC-8BV and to my knowledge all cylinder arm machines with horizontal hook (bobbin loading from the side) have a plain back and forth going feed dog which is not oscillating. They are all in the same class. They all can be set up as "plain sewer" or binding machine. Some come as plain sewer some come set up as binding machines. The differences are the arm cover plate, different needle plate / throat plate and a different feed dog + different presser foot set - thats basically the main difference.

If the machine is set up as a "plain sewer" (not binding) its even better because the parts you need for setting them up as a binder machine are often cheaper and easier to find then the parts for setting it up as a plain sewer (f.i. for Pfaff 335 and Seiko LSC-8BV) Sounds stupid? But thats how it is.

Feed dog can have different size needle holes. So when you are checking out the machines check the foot lift height. Especially the Adler could be of a subclass with lower foot lift. And check if they can handle the max. needle size and thread size you want to use - usually its 138 or metric #20 thread.

 

 

Thanks a lot for the advice. Now i know a little more about this machines. 

I have a few questions more:

-what thickness of leather they usually sew?

- Can they handle veg tan leather?

-Also the seller as a Necchi 840 wich i saw a post but i didn't understand if this machine sews veg tan leather, and if it's at the same level of Adler 069 & Seiko LSC-8BV?

[Zac]

Hi Alexandre,

I own a Seiko LCW-8BLV which i think is similar to the machine you are looking at. As mentioned above mine was set us a synchronised binder and I had to change over the parts to make it a plain sewing machine. It was a pretty straight forward change apart from changing the feed dog mechanism I did have to get a sewing machine mechanic to help me with that. It’s sewing very well now though

I mostly make wallets and bags with mine and now that it is set up properly it sews very well, even with thicker veg tan and with many layers of thin veg tan (which I had always had issues with previous to owning this machine). The largest thread I have used is metric #20 and that seems to work fine.

 

It’s a well made Japanese machine and it’s handy I can easily jump on eBay and buy cheap feet if needed.

I have no experience with the Adler so can’t compare.

If you have any other questions let me know. It’s nice to be the one who can help rather than needing it for a change!

Cheers,

Zac

[AlexandreP]

On 4/6/2020 at 8:22 AM, Zac said:

Hi Alexandre,

I own a Seiko LCW-8BLV which i think is similar to the machine you are looking at. As mentioned above mine was set us a synchronised binder and I had to change over the parts to make it a plain sewing machine. It was a pretty straight forward change apart from changing the feed dog mechanism I did have to get a sewing machine mechanic to help me with that. It’s sewing very well now though

I mostly make wallets and bags with mine and now that it is set up properly it sews very well, even with thicker veg tan and with many layers of thin veg tan (which I had always had issues with previous to owning this machine). The largest thread I have used is metric #20 and that seems to work fine.

 

It’s a well made Japanese machine and it’s handy I can easily jump on eBay and buy cheap feet if needed.

I have no experience with the Adler so can’t compare.

If you have any other questions let me know. It’s nice to be the one who can help rather than needing it for a change!

Cheers,

Zac

Thanks Zac. Useful information. I'll keep it in mind.