Hi, Tandy, E leather, have a paddern for sale... for chaps... I can't remeber if it had chinks... we have about five pairs of chinks around the tack room... I going to try and copy a pair of bear fur wooly's chinks so I'm going to make a paddern out of some of the chinks I think I even have a pair of kid chinks...I could copy them for you...cowhorse