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I haven't been doing this all that long but have seen strip of leather sewn to skirt to keep holster from rising when revolver or pistol is drawn,,only pix from Carilco(sp) leather,,don't know what kind of extra bulk,,if any from just looking...

i would like to know the answer to that one too!!

thanks for pixs and other advice,,,the belt in the pix is a vintage George Lawrence belt and i don't want to put holes in it so i drug out 1 made a while back and i believe it only 7/8oz leather cause no matter how i secure to it,, the holster kept falling south!!! I sent a pix to will ghormly and he said it would need a custom belt because of the severe angle...Atempting something beyond my skill but have learned from it..maybe next year i tackle agin, gonna see if i can fashion some other kind of holster from it,,,it was just a pice of scrap i was toying with till i get some more hide!!!

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Buenos dios,,,Out of leather but had enough scrap to fashion a holster similar to the angle of the Rory Calhoun pix...Gonna post few pixs and remember this is a rough prototype held with glue and not perfect cuts...I was thinking maybe the T screws i read about at all the big time pro leather makers migjht be a way to keep it at the right angle,,,,only i have no idea what they look like or where to install....I was hoping some one post some pixs of the T screws(or other apparatus) and suggest in the holster or belt install or any better idea how to secure....Thanks... g onna

mike,,sounds like a good process,,had considered paper to play with but hadn't thought about actually putting revolver in it,sounds smart idea to me!!i am having fun for sure,,,, made a first double mexican loop and it came out good so i had another one going but would you believe when cutting the loops in the skirt the i cut the damn thing off,,just lost train of thought i guess,,like putting neat lac on instead of neat foot,,guess i will trim skirt and rivet the pouch instead.....Rory is on the western channel this afternoon featuring the very leather rig in the pix,,believe i will record and maybe be a better look at the rig,,thanks hasta luego

ok finally

thanks for advice twin,,had to read a couple of times before i got abbreviate back flap,so it is a shortend skirt...i will fool with it till i get it,,it is a real severe angle.... Maybe you can tell what i did wrong on the cross draw a put together,,am doing a pix... i thought a had it till i belted up and the pouch flopped like a fish out of water,,so i riveted the thing to the skirt making a tight belt fit and it works ok,,just wonder where i went wrong,,thanks try again to post pix

buenos dios,,,,i finally got a fairly good cross draw finished with 30 degree angle....My brother bless him sent me a pix of Rory Calhoun movie and asked could i make a holster like that!!!!! I have no idea how to craft one with that severe angle..have been at this for about 1 yr altogether and only made a smattering of 12 holsters...Gonna try a pix and maybe some of you great skilled ones can show me the path!!! Thanks

did all of the above and achieved a workable piece of leather,,only twice as hard as usual,,,got to cut pouch straps,,haven't decide 1 or 2,,gonna use a clean piece of leather that for damn sure!!! hasta luego

thanks for advice,,give a try and let know how i come out

like i said aaron,,was an accident been at it long enough to know the order and the fact that this leather is almost 7.00 a sq foot in stead of the less than 5.00 when i bought it,,would like to try use and i will use it anyway!! thanks for all in put,,this great place!!!

on my last project i used a piece of herman oak craft grade i have had for 2 years and decided to sun it with neat foot oil first....then i didn't treat part of it... the sunned neat foot took the dye better.... So my next project decided to sun and oil the whole thing,,except i put neat lac on it by mistake(old age,eyesight,meds????) anyways i heated it up with a hair dryer and neat foot oil and it outside in sun for next 24 hrs..I am building a holster for a second hand shop but still want my best to be there.... Is it going to tool and dye ok or have i got a plain jane project?????

thank you very much amigo!!!!!

Hi,,,,picked up a copy of Packing Iron at a estate sale a few days ago and it sure is a great book,,,,anyways the term rolled borders appears a lot on the mexican loop holsters and it is somthing i would like to try on my own creations if i knew exactly what it is and what tools are needed to recreate,,as the one on page 112... Thanks for any enlightenment..

downloaded a copy of al s. and am sure it will help me a bunch,,the fold pixs save me a lot of bad cuts....Thanks for help!!

After more searching than i can remember in a while i found a site that is called Spaghetti Western Replicas and they make the 1 and only i am looking for and sure enough the belt is cut,,to help with the angle i don't know,but i sure can't afford ha ha. It is from a guy of some fame i guess several years back before all this cowboy shoot stuff blossumed,,Andy Anderson...Anyways just thought i would toss that out and i have something to look forward to trying in the future..Gotta go do something to help the other half before she bows her smoke stack....sea ya

i'll be dipped and clipped,,,never once thought about the belt being used to adjust holster,,,for sure need practice before trying that,,maybe be up to it by new years,,,thanks a lot for sharp eye and all tips from rest.... i agree it is a cool design!!!!!

it would be good bad ugly,,try and post a pix with this,,,ha my computer skills are like leather,,need more practice,,that said i have some will ghormly patterns to work with,,i think i use those till i get better but if the pix get here and someone knows of specific pattern i would like to know if possible,,regards and thanks

Thanks amigo,, i am sure it will help!!!!! Thanks amigo,, i am sure it will help!!!!!

Looking for a template or pattern,,have found a lot of patterns and a lot of replicas(at premium price) but would like to attempt to make one for my own use....Found no pattern specifically for mr. Cleef style holster,,,will be for a ruger blackhawk 357/38 SA 3 screw,,4 5/8 barrel... i am unsure of how to get the sharp angle,,putting over belt or attach a separate hanger to back of holster..i have made only a few holsters and certainly a beginner but enjoy giving it a go...thanks for reply,,maybe i put in wrong forum as i see there is a pattern forum... I guess a good cross draw pattern whether it says van cleef style or not would suffice..Thanks for reply!!

Great web site!!! Can anyone put me on source of a good Lee Van Cleff style holster and belt... I have fooled around with my own patterns and having trouble getting the angle for the cross draw acceptable..Appreciate any help,,thanks!!!