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Would vinyl naturally crease like that? (mainly show in pics 1 and 4)

How do you treat leather-cloth? Would a regular leather conditioner be good?

I recently got this vintage plycraft lounger chair. I'm struggling if it's vinyl or leather. I want to make sure I treat it/clean it with the right product. Can anyone here tell for sure if this is leather based on these photos? I'm leaning towards vinyl since some of the "grain" looks a little too good, but I could be wrong. Unfortunately the tag only lists the foam material.

Thanks for all of the input everybody!

Thanks. I guess I was just hoping there was a somewhat easy way to remove dye like this. Hate covering up all the leather but that might be the best route

Thanks! Would a balm/finish "seal" in the dye/finish that seems to be rubbing off with saddle soap?

Thanks. I guess I'm a little worried the rough out part could be bonded leather. Very new to this and don't know how to tell genuine leather for sure.

Having a terrible time trying to remove bleeding dye from this seat back. It's a cool piece and I hate to get rid of it. Trying to decide if it's worth the effort though It just has such a strange look to it. The thought crossed my mind, is this even genuine leather? Here are some closeups. Appreciate any input. Confused by the dark lines on the lighter parts (they look the same wet and dry). I've scrubbed for hours with saddle soap and rags still come up orange.

Thanks! Is there a less toxic option? This is already in my house and It was very hard to move. I don't necessarily care about the color, I just want to stabilize it so no dye rubs off. Wouldn't a lacquer prevent the leather from breathing/being able to be conditioned?

Any pointers? Stumped on where to go with this thing and would hate to get rid of it. Have never encountered this issue with leather. Thanks

I have a vintage leather recliner and it looks like somebody re-dyed the seat back. It is a different color than the rest of the chair (more orange-y). When using saddle soap on the chair, orange dye bleeds off so I am very hesitant to sit on it. I've seen deglazers but just wondering how harsh that would be. What does the finish of a tan leather look like after using a deglazer? Would something less toxic like vinegar or rubbing alcohol work to remove a dye/finish like this? Open to any thoughts/suggestions on removing or how to prevent this dye from bleeding? I'd be fine just stabilizing it so it doesn't rub off on anything. (wondering if a simple wax conditioner might do this) Thanks! Here is a quick photo of the area:

Thanks guys. So would saddle soap really be the best product for a couch? I haven't heard of anyone using saddle soap on furniture. It doesn't really need a cleaning, just a conditioning and a product I can use for general upkeep. Not sure that I really want to get it wet using saddle soap. Does anyone have any experience with Chamberlains or Bick? My experience with waxes or balms like Smiths is they leave a sticky finish and can really darken leather.

Hello, I have an older leather couch (about 25 years old) that is new to me. Overall it has been well kept but it could definitely use a good basic conditioning. It's an important piece to me and I want to make sure I keep it in good shape. Ideally I'd like something as gentle and as natural as possible and something that will not darken the leather (or at least only minimally). I've narrowed it down to: Bickmore Bick 4 (have used it in the past and like it, but don't like that silicone is in the ingredients) Chamberlains Leather Milk, either the regular No. 1 or the furniture specific No. 5 (Haven't used any of their products before) How bad is silicone as an ingredient? (as in Bick 4) Appreciate any helpful info! Made in the USA is a plus, and a company that has some history is also a plus. But my main concern is something that is going to be safe for my couch and protect for years to come. Thanks!

I'm not really saying they didn't work, they just didn't do what I was hoping (which again, I don't know if that is possible). I have a bottle of leather honey on the way.

And just to see what people think (for the original question) what is a good conditioner for a couch? I own bick 4 but don't like it. I plan on trying leather honey next.