garethkerlin

Can I get a new link to this server if it is still active? It says it has expired. Thanks!

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Which brand did you end up going with? I'm stuck in the same research loop trying to make the best choice. I know some of the less reputable clones are really good for a fraction of the price but is hard to know which ones you can trust... Artisan is selling the base model toro3200 with the u table without shipping for $2,600. Sounds like a pretty good deal though freight might be crazy. Can't find many good used machines local to me in VA....

If the Artisan Toro 3200 is a 441 clone, does it have the same capacity as the class 4, 4500 etc? The only difference being the shorter cylinder arm? The class 3 has a 9" and the class 4 is 16" and this one is 12". If so, that's a nice middle of the road!

I know I could replace the parts etc but I don't have a lot of experience with tensions. Definitely don't wanna throw myself in the deep in and get super frustrated. The "2-3 pieces of paper" on the brochure sounds a like a sales pitch to me haha

When I see something like that on a brochure I really have to question the reality of it. Is it just a sales pitch to sell machines even though it will be a huge pain in the butt... Haha

I have an opportunity to buy one of those for a good deal. I love the stitch that they make (and it's a dream of mine to own one) though I believe they are probably even more limited than a 441 clone haha. I can't imagine a flatbed attachment for one haha.

At this point I'm a two hand minimum haha. Hand sewing has been really rewarding and to be honest I prefer the look and construction of a saddle stitch but I just want to produce more. Just can't shell out 7 grand at the start.lol.

Thanks for the responses! If I go new, it looks like this is the one that I'll end up with. Seems like it's the best of both worlds.

Long time member, first time poster! Thanks for all the posts and knowledge that you guys have! I have been looking at buying my first industrial cylinder arm walking foot machine. The used market is scarce on the East coast so I've been looking at new machines though I find myself in the same place so many are. I want to do thicker foods like work belts, holsters etc. but I also really want to work in waxed canvas goods. I looked at the class 26 (or equivalent) which is good for light/medium that maxed out at 1/2" and the class 4 which is great for heavier work but struggles with lighter work... I can only afford one... Well maybe I can't even afford one but I'm gonna try haha. Found the newer Artisan Toro 3200. Says it can do light work "2-3 pieces of paper" to 9/10 of an inch. I know each would require setup and tension adjustments which is normal but does anyone have any experience with this machine? Can it run the gamut it says it can? Can it perform well in both scenarios? If so, then I think it might be the one for me. Any thoughts appreciated! TORO3200LineBrochure09302014.pdf