I actually do stage combat. So we do try to make the armor a little heavier to protect against accidents. Most of those heavier armor panels I was expecting to hand sew or rivet. I do a lot of pouches, leather doublets, and even bodices with 4 to 5 oz veg tan or some chap leather. I also use kip a lo t for accents. I love doing mixed hide stuff as I see few people doing it, as well a scrap coats. I may go up to a heavy grade machine later but right now I need something to get the labor intense sewing of pounchs down to something minimal.