FredBeagle

Yeah that must be it.. Look the man asked for experiences and I gave mine.. maybe you had better luck with it.. I totally disagree about that being 99% user error but then maybe you sell outlaws and you don't want anybody saying other wise. This is my final answer.. History won't be kind to the outlaw I feel. It's the Ford Pinto of Sewing machines. It could be better and it has made me quite a bit of money. But no excuse for not having a manual for it already..Another thing of concern is the old man that invented the Outlaw he just had a heart attack I believe.. I don't know if his son is gonna take over but long term service for all cowboy machines concerns me as well. For the problems we're having with it considering what we paid I'm angry about it. I could of bought one of those cheap Chinese manual sewing machines for under 300 dollars and it probably would of done just as good a job. I had to go out and buy a used Singer industrial machine yesterday because I can't depend on this outlaw. But if you got your heart set on owning the Ford Pinto of sewing machines best of luck to you.

When it works great I love it.. When it messes up which is often I don't love it anymore!

I did all that.. you always have to hold the threads when getting started. And you always have to go all the way back with the handle. We've been doing that since day 1. Dad has it going pretty good right now. And I guess you could buy any sewing machine no matter how expensive they are and have issues. But the outlaw manual should of been released already a long time ago and it sounds like it will never be written or released.. I know the old man that runs Cowboy is having health issues and was in the hospital. I'm sure the time I felt like I fighting it and bending bars the timing was off. It's just a new machine should have the bugs already worked out I feel. It is a sickening feeling when you pull the arm down and you feeling it bending something off inside there. And I take a lot of time tooling a gun holster and it will sew down one side just fine but then it takes a crap and it wads up. That's enough to make a preacher cuss! But yeah it happens a lot with the outlaw. There needs to be a manual and not told to go get a Tipman Boss manual it's the same thing.. That's not how professionals roll.

I've had a cowboy outlaw for over a year now.. To be fair it has done a quite a bit of work and beats the crap out of handsewing.. But this thing has been one big headache. A machine that cost this much should never bind and the bobbin thread quite often gets wadded up. To be honest this thing has soured me on Cowboy machines period. The outlaw should be outlawed! I was warned by the salesman not to buy it but I didn't listen. We've had to take this thing apart several times already. But you shouldn't have to feel like your bending pushrods and valves when you come down with the arm! It's my father that mostly works on it. But yeah I wouldn't recommend at all.

That's a big help I appreciate it. I see you got a ton of machines. We bought a cowboy outlaw but to be honest. I'm rather disappointed with it. It has sewed up a ton of knife sheaths. Purses, Mig plyer sheaths,Gun holsters. One minute it does good then the next you have the bobbin thread getting all wadded up. Sometimes it binds and yes we're going all the way back with it.. Don't think it was ready for primetime and I was told this by a certain salesman that I bought it from. He was right. We've had to replace the cable one time. We had to do a ton of work to that thing to keep it running. So that's why I got this machine. I guess I'm a glutton for punishment. But I think she'll do all right.

Yesterday I got a pretty good deal on a Singer 153w102 got the thing for 300 dollars..... But today I called Singer and they told me they no longer offer technical support for their older machines and that I was on my own. I was able to down load the manual for it but it's pretty foggy about how to run the thread around the tension disk down and around the thread controller.. I was hoping for a video showing this but not have been able to find anything.. But I'm looking for somebody that could recommend the biggest needles this thing takes..Again Singer was no help at all.. The manual only says that Simanco are the official singer needles.. everybody else are just wanna bes.. But also I was wondering when this beast was made? I know that it will sew canvas and probably some light leather projects which is fine.. I mostly make knife sheaths,some purses and gun holsters.. One thing I like and dislike about it is this thing takes off like a scalded ape! My aunt use to work for Lee Jeans and from the sound of it this is probably the machine she use to use,