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Thank you all, especially @Constabulary Machine is working with needlesystem 1000 H Now I need suitable thread, the one I'm using now is to thin!

@Wizcrafts I don´t really know cause I´m a real newbie in this but probably there is people doing just that, but I guess if you sew a lot it gets tiresome to do the job every time you need to change the needle. At least on domestic machines people sometimes do modifications to the machine instead, but I think that would be a shame on these old nice machines. I am surprised that there seems to be no one specializing in doing custom needles to people. My opinion is that with the technology of today it would not be impossible to make needles with ok quality, but i may be wrong! Regards, Johan

Ok thank you for all information (again!) and good to hear that it´s not only me being stupid not finding the lenght of the needles! :-) I have in total 5 more or less old "industrial" sewing machines. The other 3 are a Singer 29K 4, a Husqvarna 27-10 and a Durkopp 265. Those should not be that hard finding needles for, at least I hope!

Yes, but I find it very hard to get hold of the length of the needles. As I have understood the diameter is rather straight forward to get, but I find no way to get the length of the needles. Or is it jut me being a bit stupid or to knew in this game?

I have found this on the webpage for Groz-Beckert and if there is any logic to the suffix H this needle would be the same as the 657 but with a shoulder, but maybe that´s totally wrong needle? Groz-Beckert 215 AH - Also called 657 H and also Groz-Beckert 88 - Also called 175, DUx1, DUx2

Hi again! Since I´m about to try and get some needles for the Claes & Flentje you helped me with just the other day. I was thinking of trying to get some needles for another project as well. That project happens to be a Durkopp Cl 18. (Or possibly Cl 17) The label on it says Durkopp and the letters D. R. G. M. followed by the number 132 492. (I think I have found what I think is a serialnumber: 4 570) I have found manuals for both of them (in German) but as I understand from them the 17 use system 88 needles and the 18 use system 657 needles. But somewhere I think I read that the 18 can use both of them and I also read something about that the 88 shold be 88 Long? First of all, do you know the difference between Cl 17 and 18 as machines or can you help me guess what I have? And then we have the obvious question! How to find needles! :-) (In my opinion the 17 and 18 are so very much alike each other so I think it would be strange if they don´t take the same needles, so maybe both 88 and 657 will work, but I think both of those systems are discontinued!?

Many thanks @Constabulary! Especially the picture with the needles portrayed will be useful. So good to have a sense of what the different needles looks like. (A bit strange that nobody has made a modern chart over this.) I´ll try to get hold of some System 1000 needles, but as I understand it they are also discontinued and replaced with the 1000H system? The big difference as I can see is that the original 1000 needles had more or less the same diameter through out the whole length of the needle whilst the 1000H looks more like a modern needle. Do you think that will be any big difference when using it? Thanks again! / Johan

Thank you Constabulary and jimi. @Constabulary Do you happen to have a digital copy of the needle comparison list that you could share? I´m quite knew to this and all the needles system makes me dizzy! :-) And do you know any place I could read more about the 124 and 586 system? (I think I have ruled out system 1000 as to long? @jimi -Do you happen to know what the ATLAS version of this machine was called? (So it will be easier for me to google the internet for more information and perhaps as you suggested, spare parts.) Thanks again! / Johan

Hi folks! I´m completely new in this forum and this is my first post. I have a Claes & Flentje from somewhere around the 1890´s which I´m trying to get going. I think the model is Militaria or possibly Sattler No. VIII. However I have just one needle for it and before I break it it would be nice to have some new ones! Does anyone have a clue what needle system it uses and where I can get hold of new needles? Here are some needle measurements: Overall length ca 82 mm Shank diameter ca 2,4 mm Butt to top of eye ca 71 mm Butt to bottom of eye ca 73 mm Also see the pictures! And finally! Does anyone have any additional information about this type of machine (or similar) I would be very grateful. For instance I´m not sure of how to thread it! Regards, Johan