connerh04
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On 1/5/2023 at 5:14 AM, PastorBob said:Lots of tooling there. It looks great and should last for generations to come for sure. How long did it take you to carve that? Beautiful.
Thank you - I am not really sure...I would venture to say somewhere in the 8 hour range. I can usually only get in an hour or so at a time. I think drawing it took like 5 hours or so.
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Thanks all!
On 12/14/2022 at 8:43 AM, chuck123wapati said:beautiful work!!!
On 12/14/2022 at 8:25 AM, doubleh said:Excellent.
On 12/14/2022 at 6:22 AM, sparctek said:Nice Work!
On 12/14/2022 at 5:45 AM, Bawarrior said:Very nice work, and a lot of it.
On 12/13/2022 at 4:22 PM, tsunkasapa said:Very well done!
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I made this photo album for me and my family.
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I think if you were to give the folks at shoesystemsplus a call or email they would probably be able to tell you just about everything you would need to know about the two brands of machines.
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I had picked up a 5 in 1 a long time ago without a gear cover. I tried hard to find one but couldn't. I had asked a friend of mine with a 3D printer if he could design something to work. He said he could so I passed it off to him, he used his engineering mind to make a handful of trial and error runs before printing off the perfect fit for the cutter, he even threw my logo on it and painted it to match. I couldn't be happier, and I wanted to post it on here to in the event that someone else has a Champion 5 in 1 that is lacking a gear cover, or has a cracked cover - as he saved the file and would be happy to print more. It is plastic, but it will keep dust and your fingers out just the same. He saved the file for this, if you have a Landis you would probably have to be local and be ok giving up the cutter for a little while. Local meaning WA, or at least the pacific northwest.
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I sent you a message.
Conner
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I am going to resurrect this thread and hopefully someone with some info can provide input. I am looking for footbeds, and there appears to be a supply chain shortage across the board. Anybody have a source for the classic Birk footbeds right now? I was able to scoop up one pair a couple months ago but now it looks like everything has run dry.
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I am located in WA, putting together a boot shop and in need of a post bed sewing machine. Doesn't have to be pretty, function is the main goal here. If you are in the PNW and have one sitting in the corner collecting dust...I would be happy to come grab it and put it to use. Shoot me a message if you've got something, thanks!
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On 5/30/2021 at 2:21 AM, pogue44 said:Post a picture can probably help you out.
Here it is, from all my research so far I have come to find out it is most likely a Champion Model H - I am looking for the top roller, and a gear cover - I need blades too, but I haven't ordered them yet. I had reached out to shoe systems plus, and they do have a top roller for Landis, but I haven't checked the width of the roller and the OD of the shaft to make sure the fit is the same Landis/Champion. Seems like I could use an arbor bushing with a keyway, or talking to Bruce Johnson, he said he has a machine shop turn one out for him fairly reasonably. That gear cover though...would be nice to have, but I think it may be a pipe dream. (Added) I do have the stop collar for the cutting wheel also, I just took this picture as I was putting it together and realizing what big parts were missing.
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So...it wasn’t too hard to put it together, but I believe I am missing some parts. So now I’m on the hunt...who’s got a junker?
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I have no idea which cutter I have here it is an old 5 in 1. It was mid-restoration when I acquired it but now I need to figure out how to put the pieces back together. Anybody have manuals OR be willing to send me some pictures of the gears and guts of their own cutters? I found a messy drawing on shoe systems plus, but it doesn’t give me enough...any help is appreciated. I have a couple buckets of parts, I’ll try and add some pictures if I can figure it out.
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On 4/3/2021 at 5:16 PM, DonInReno said:Right now there are three pro 2000 Ferdco 441 machines (not juki) on Craigslist in Washington. From the looks of them they were rode hard and probably not worth more than the asking price, but under those cute flat accessory plates are cylinder arm 441 clones for $1400.
I just wanted to give this a bump for anyone looking for one of these machines. He has bumped the asking price down to $1000 for these Ferdcos...
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5 minutes ago, RemingtonSteel said:Conner, yes you are mostly correct. If mounting the head on a different table or a stand, you could use the same motor, and speed reducer (if it came with one.) The only thing you may need to alter/replace is the connector rods (connects foot pedal to actuating arm on motor), and the chain for the presser foot lifter, if they are not long enough. Below is a photo (provided by JerseyFirefighter on a different thread ) that shows a Ferdco that Keystone Sewing was selling with an additional flat bed attachment. To me, this would be the best way to mount a 441, if one need both a cylinder arm and flatbed machine.
I hope you are correct about Hoffman Brothers, but I have my doubts. HB purchased Ferdco around 2011-2012(?), and the page on the HB website regarding Leather Machines (https://hoffmanbrothers.com/leather-machines/) points to https://www.Ferdco.com, which hasn't been updated since the purchase. I believe that Keystone Sewing Machines, was one of the last companies still selling Ferdco but I noticed they no longer list Ferdcos on their website. Unfortunately Gregg From Keystone Sewing is not longer with us to add to this discussion. My personal experience with HB is that I emailed them right after getting my Pro 2000 looking for extra feet, and they never responded to my email.
Yes, a table like that would be the cats meow...I would really like to find one somewhat locally to avoid what I can only assume would be some pretty hefty shipping charges...
I received one e-mail from HB, I haven't inquired about parts yet, just asked for a catalog, but this isn't this first time I am hearing about possible poor service. We will see...How much of a Ferdco 2000 is unique to ferdco? Am I right in thinking that a lot of the parts can be picked up from other 441 machine companies? Juki or clones...
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14 hours ago, RemingtonSteel said:Conner congrats on the purchase! From looking at the literature I have, Ferdco only lists the HH in the Pro 2000HHFB package which listed for $7,095, but you could get the head only for $6,545. I don't see a Pro 2000HH package which would have been mounted on a table like the standard 2000 or the 2000H. So either someone purchased the head only and built their own flatbed table (not likely), or I would say that you what you do indeed have is the Pro 2000HHFB with the original table. I don't think Ferdco would have put on the FB decal (even if there was enough room) as one, it is self evident, and two, it has no bearing on that actual head itself. If you are going to be sewing items without contours to it (fairly flat items), stick with the flatbed for now, as you can always remount it down the road if that situation changes.
Curious, did you get any attachments with it, like a holster or stirrup plate, different feet, roller guide, etc? Also, I would really be interested in knowing the capacity of the HH. If you put the needle in the top most position, and using the foot pedal to raise the presser foot to its highest, what is the distance from the needle plate to the bottom of the walking foot?
I sewed with the clutch motor for awhile, and you get used to it. However, if your really want to sew at a snails pace for some items, but really take off on long straightaways like belts, , I highly recommend the FS-550 servo motor.
Ok this is good to know. So in theory...I could go either way with this machine with mounting as the head is the same - the the table would be all that changes. I do want access to the cylinder arm to some degree...but first priority is getting the function of everything squared away. If I have some time this weekend I will get those measurements for you. I think with some tweaking the clutch motor would be fine - but I think my learning curve would be shorter with a servo motor. I didn't get any parts when I initially purchased the machine - BUT - the guy that sold it to me says he has a lot of thread and stuff hanging around in the shop they came from, so there is a chance that I could grab some stuff from him, I would definitely like to get my hands on a few different feet and plates to try out. If not, I sent an e-mail to Ron Hoffman (Hoffman brothers) and they are ferdco, fully stocked with new machines and parts...
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On 4/5/2021 at 10:29 AM, RemingtonSteel said:Buying from Offer Up shouldn't be any different than buying from CL, FB or any other type of classified, as it is just another way to put buyers in contact with sellers. It is still ultimately the buyers responsibility to do their homework to make sure they are getting what they are paying for, in working order or not. JJN found my Ferdco Pro 2000 on CL for me (still can't thank him enough), and like him, I spent a good part of a day driving up and back to pick it up. It's an awesome machine, and I love it even more now that I put a servo motor on it. As far as those Ferdcos go, $1,400 for a 441 clone with a 16 inch arm, looks like a great deal, even if they were ridden hard and put away wet.
Ferdinand, aptly named his 441 clone the Super Bull, as it will plow through anything you throw at it. I believe that the model shown is actually the Pro 2000HHFB. HH - Super High Lift, and FB = Flat Bed. The Pro 2000HHFB sold complete (stand, motor, speed reducer, and accessory kit) for $7,095 when it was released in 2000. There is the standard 2000, the high lift 2000H and the super high lift 2000HH. The standard will sew through 3/4 inch, so it makes me wonder what the H and the HH will sew through. Considering most 441 clones max out at a sewing height of 3/4 inch, that makes these HH at $1,400 even a better deal if they are still sewing. My only concern, is that on my Pro 2000, I have to have the Presser Spring Regulator backed out almost all the way, so as not to mark up my leather with the walking foot. The one in the picture show has the Regulator cranked down almost all the way down. If I was in a few hour drive of the area and needed/wanted a 441 clone, I would go look at them.
That's good info on the lettering, I was wondering what that all meant. These are cylinder machines, but they are just permanently mounted in these flatbed tables. Is that what the HHFB was? Or was it a true flatbed? And the presser foot thing your mentioning was probably due to their lack of concern sewing the webbing, not leather. I am no sewing machine guru..yet. I was definitely of the school of thought that these are some hardy machines and being a 441 clone, they are fixable.
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Yeah I picked up one of those ferdcos, it operates smooth so far but they all have the clutch motor on them. The guy now has 2 left, they were from a place that was stitching tow straps and such. Hoffman has all the parts you would need to get it fixed up if needed, but parts are also fairly readily available through Leather machine co, or Juki. I am happy that I pulled the trigger, just need to figure out this table situation.
On 4/3/2021 at 5:16 PM, DonInReno said:Right now there are three pro 2000 Ferdco 441 machines (not juki) on Craigslist in Washington. From the looks of them they were rode hard and probably not worth more than the asking price, but under those cute flat accessory plates are cylinder arm 441 clones for $1400.
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Landis 12 Model F Curved needle sole stitcher - Needs love, I have the cover and the pulleys that go on the ground, I can send additional pictures of that stuff. $200 OBO
Landis 12' line finisher with naumkeg and cutting wheels, everything works well including vacuum system. Wired for 120V. $700 OBO
Autosoler comet-10 $50 OBO
Pickup in Richland, WA or if you are nearby we could probably work something out for a delivery. We can work out a bundle price too, just let me know if you're interested. I will try and check this regularly. There are some other nick nacks in the shop related to shoe repair I would probably part with too, just not going to be a dream I can chase.
Thanks,
Conner