The timing with bobbin is correct, we have removed the screw for the plate so we can see the needle eye position with bobbin. But when we reassemble, the needle is still ahead of the hole. Prior to this happening we were completing many peojects. According to the Leather sewing Machine Co instructional videos, things should be correct. ....somewhere along the line of sewing, this plate got in the way and cannot get the needle to decend back into the hole. Thanks everyone for the manuals and replies