TakashiOkada

okay I'm watching a video from the same guy and the 2603's feed dog has a circular motion, 2605's feed dog only goes forward and backwards. so there's a huge difference after all. I think it's some sort of clone of the 246? I'm strongly considering asking my local dealer to get me this 2603 instead of the 341. I bet it's cheaper, too.

1 - oh so the feed dog and throat plate DO work for that machine, interesting. I think he said they are parts for a pfaff machine? 2 - that's smart. I could design and make a cover plate with acrylic and a laser cutter. 3 - agree TBH today I learned something new, thanks. the translation was a bit rough but it was better than nothing

hello, it's me again. I was about to buy the typical 341 you guys recommended to me for 1900$ but then I found an interesting triple feed binding machine in the used market for 400$. it's a typical gc2605. this is the picture of the actual machine for sale, it even has the half table and all! there's a similar model, it's the typical gc2603, which has normal throat plate more suitable for general leather sewing. apparently it's the same machine but with different plates, picture below. the end of both arms seem a bit different. these are the plates for each model. screw holes don't seem to match more pics from the internet for reference according to this picture, both 2603 and 2605 are essentially the same machine? this is a video of a guy with a gc2605 speaking russian (i think) and he's saying something while holding the plate I want to put in the gc2605. can anyone who speaks russian tell me what he's saying?

@Cumberland Highpower yup that 335 is set up for binding. yeah you guys are right, I shouldn't gamble with my hard earned money, I'll go the safe route and buy the 341 locally. I'll post some pictures over here when It arrives in -several months- ! thank you!

That's true. Another option would be to get my local dealer to import a typical tw3-341 for me. They quoted me a price of 1.916$ for that machine, I can also just buy a typical tw3-335 for around 1.600$ which they already have in store, those prices include table and servo motor Typical doesn't seem to make the model 246 so I won't be able to get it through my dealer. They only sell typical, singer, juki and Jin.

The particular machine I linked has the tariff cost from china to the US included with shipping for some reason. I'm shipping the machine to Miami and then it's rerouted to Paraguay, sending it directly to Paraguay is not feasible because Paraguayan customs, as all other government institutions in general, are very inefficient and corrupt here and will definitely steal my machine. Freight forwarding companies somehow manage to get through customs without getting their packages stolen, for this reason most people just import through them instead of shipping directly to Paraguay without any intermediary. all of them have warehouses in Miami and some also operate in china and Spain. my freight forwarder handles literally everything and consolidates all the costs into one easy to calculate rate: weight. they also provide insurance on my package for up to 1.000$ in case anything happens to it during transport from their warehouse in Miami all the way to my house it's very convenient, it allows me to buy many leather work related tools and supplies that are just not available in here. most of my tools come from Tandy, weaver, buckle guy, amazon us, aliexpress and others. BTW y'all don't realize how lucky you are. there's literally everything in your online stores and can import heavy stuff for so cheap, the cost of importing that model 246 from Miami to my country (520$) is almost as much as what the machine itself cost including shipping to miami and US tariffs (604$). if it included a table and a motor the freight forwarder fee would be too high, luckily it doesn't, it's just the head Regarding quality... I've seen a few videos of people reviewing honkon branded machines and they seem happy with them, but I agree, it's going to be a gamble.

yup, I'm aware. in fact I prefer it that way since my freight forwarder charges by weight, the lighter the better in my case. oops. thank you,@AlZilla. I did it right this time haha thank you, I agree completely with your sentiment and the 335 could be enough, BUT the 246 model I found on alibaba is literally the best machine for my needs on top of being way cheaper than the 335, so I'm leaning towards that one. welp, this machine (246) seems like the one to get then. by the looks of it, it also can do about 90% of the work I do. that feet info is very helpful, thank you! about the table... I'm gonna have to resort to modifying a u shape table because they don't sell the kind you showed in your video where I live (that I know of) and importing a table is out of the question since my freight forwarder charges by weight, I'll buy a servo locally for the same reason. I like making things and tinkering so it's gonna be a fun project! thank you guys. I'm very grateful for your advice.

@RockyAussie I've been browsing alibaba and found a seemingly reputable factory selling a 246 model at a price I can actually afford! what do you think.. should I get this one? the product video shows that the feed dog moves in a circular motion, not just front to back like the 335 https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/HK-246-Single-Needle-Cylinder-Bed_62558318957.html

it says in the video that it can use size #14 to #24 needles, some other places say the smallest needle it can use is #18. I often use size #12 for very thin straps or watch bands and leather accessories with my father's old seiko TF-5. will this machine be able to handle such material/needle? something like this

I've asked the store and they told me they can import a machine for me! thanks for the idea! the store said they can import this machine for me. it's the typical tw3-341 😄they haven't given me a price yet but I hope it doesn't cost an arm and a leg haha. fingers crossed!

that's good to hear (or read in this case). thank you! ohh yeah I've seen that video before, it's a beautiful machine and I would love to get one but sadly they don't sell it over here. I only have those two typical machines available to purchase

thin to medium thickness chrome tan leather bags, purses, briefcases, wallets and accessories

I've been researching a lot on which sewing machine to buy and I came to the conclusion that my first machine has to be a cylinder arm machine if I want the closest thing to a sewing machine that does it all (since I can only afford one atm). I've been watching videos and lurking this forum and reddit but still unsure since some people warn against getting a 335 model for leatherwork, but then again you mostly talk about sewing thicker veg tan leather. all I'm going to sew is thin to medium thickness chrome tan leather bags, briefcases, wallets and accessories with it. I went to the sewing machine store and they only have these two: typical tw3-p335vb is about 1.500 us$ converting from my local currency. 650w servo motor is 100$ more. the non-binding needle plate and feed dog is an extra 30$ this one is for binding but I've seen some people use it for leather too user manual: https://www.supsew.com/download/typical/Typical TW3-P335 Parts and Instruction Manual.pdf typical tw3-18bl (about 2.300 us$) 650w servo is 100$ more. this one is a proper machine made for leather. idk if it's gonna be able to handle thin leather though. user manual https://www.supsew.com/download/typical/Typical TW3-18BL-28BL.pdf the difference in price is huge for me, in fact the typical tw3-18bl is a bit over my budget but if you guys tell me it's the right tool for the job I'm willing to save up a little more to get it.