Metalhorseman Report post Posted 15 hours ago Hello everyone ! Happy Holidays! Well I have another question for y’all. I’ve had this 133k18 machine for awhile , never used it until last week .l put a new belt on it and got it running,went and removed needle to micrometer to find some smaller needles and put back in and must not have tightened needle screw enough and it slipped out some and bent after using it for 5 minutes . And I only had one needle for machine. Having a hard time finding this needle , it’s a 216x7 class . It’s a huge needle maybe size 26 .. I would like to find smaller needles maybe 18-22 in size . Anyone use this machine ?. I wonder if it’s possible to change needle bar to a 135x17 like my other walking feet machines ? I’ll switch tinkering to another newly acquired machine 111w155, while I wait to hear from you guys. This sewing machine stuff is addictive! Thank you to all in advance also also will try to post pictures in a bit from my iPhone ,was challenging last time I tried . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted 15 hours ago You know that the 133K18 is a darning machine, right? I had a 133K3 and own a 132K6 - you can use 214 / 328 needles they are almost the same as the 216 needles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metalhorseman Report post Posted 15 hours ago (edited) Hi ! Yes on Darning machine ... I have a box of 214x2 also on label it says 160/23 these are way to small of a shank . Your saying 214/238 is the class of needle ? Or are you saying 2 different needle classes?I’ll google that .Thanks Also I looked in your profile about your machines,,they take class 214 needles u say .gosh wish I could post pictures ! I’ll keep trying to resize also found needle info on “ The Thread exchange” trying to decifer compared sizes Edited 14 hours ago by Metalhorseman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted 13 hours ago 328 and 214 are the same - 214 is more the US & Anglo "name" and 328 is more the continental European "name" for the same needle. 214 / 328 have different shaft diameter depending on the needle size. This is quite unique and I do not recall a 2nd needle system having this. I have not seen enough 216 needle though. I run my 132K with 214 / 328 and so I did with the former 133K. Maybe this older thread helps too: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Metalhorseman Report post Posted 12 hours ago On thread exchange web site 216x7 is also called CYx7 I’m new to this , so I’ve never heard this,, more googling.. Thanks Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites