Members greg gomersall Posted February 27, 2009 Members Report Posted February 27, 2009 Panhandle Leather in Amarillo sells it as well. Greg Quote
Members millwright Posted February 28, 2009 Members Report Posted February 28, 2009 That's some nice work. Someone will be proud to get those. I was curious as to what you have in mind to connect the reins to the bit. I don't notice any kind of latch. Quote
Members rawhider Posted February 28, 2009 Author Members Report Posted February 28, 2009 THis particular style of rein is attached to the bit with chains. This gives the reins some weight which in turn makes the release of the reins quicker, so that the horse gets signal faster. They are to be used with spanish style spade bits. Quote
Members megabit Posted February 28, 2009 Members Report Posted February 28, 2009 THis particular style of rein is attached to the bit with chains. This gives the reins some weight which in turn makes the release of the reins quicker, so that the horse gets signal faster. They are to be used with spanish style spade bits. What is this "SPADE BIT" you speak of? Did I tell you I have a new custom made one on order? Now I need to get a bosal and start moving my mare in that direction. Spent all day in the saddle today, first day of the three day riding clinic. Rode most of the day in a rope halter, don't think the hackamore is going to be a problem. Mike Quote
Members rawhider Posted February 28, 2009 Author Members Report Posted February 28, 2009 "Vat iz dis Zpad Beet?" HA! That's awesome, who did you order from? I gotta sell more erins before I can afford a new bit! Who's clinic are you at? I miss being able to ride every day. I want my own place so bad, but I know even then with the shoeing and the braiding I'd probably not get to ride as much as I'd like. Quote
Members entiendo Posted February 28, 2009 Members Report Posted February 28, 2009 I've given up on bosals, I've never been able to find one that works in a way that I like. The cue is sloppy and more often than not it rubs the horse raw somewhere. Here's what I use...Of course I did the decorating the bridles come plain and I couldn't have that being a braider and all... Quote
Members megabit Posted February 28, 2009 Members Report Posted February 28, 2009 "Vat iz dis Zpad Beet?" HA!That's awesome, who did you order from? I gotta sell more erins before I can afford a new bit! Who's clinic are you at? I miss being able to ride every day. I want my own place so bad, but I know even then with the shoeing and the braiding I'd probably not get to ride as much as I'd like. I have SteveM over at RanchingCountry making the bit. Kim is sending one of her's that Richard C designed to copy. I think mine is going to be sort of a prototype of new bits for Richard (his normal maker is so busy he can't get them as quick as he would like). The clinic is John Moore, he seems very good. He has a deep understanding of the history of this stuff and I am very interested in that too. http://www.johnmoore4horses.com/ One of the real good things for me is my trainer is in the clinic too, so I will get on going support with the concepts.:D I've given up on bosals, I've never been able to find one that works in a way that I like. The cue is sloppy and more often than not it rubs the horse raw somewhere. Here's what I use...Of course I did the decorating the bridles come plain and I couldn't have that being a braider and all... Not very traditional for a California Bridle horse though. I think part of the point of the hackamore is that it isn't as effective as a bit and forces you to use your seat and not just your hands. Nice looking job on decorations by the way. Quote
Members entiendo Posted February 28, 2009 Members Report Posted February 28, 2009 Not very traditional for a California Bridle horse though. I think part of the point of the hackamore is that it isn't as effective as a bit and forces you to use your seat and not just your hands. Nice looking job on decorations by the way. Now traditionally does the horse go in a bosal first or a snaffle bit? Nothing wrong with changing tradition a little if it works better. Quote
Members rawhider Posted February 28, 2009 Author Members Report Posted February 28, 2009 A properly made and adjusted bosal has a quicker release then anything else used over the nose. It's all in how they are built. Traditionaly the bosal was used first, then the Two-rein, then straight up in the spade. The more I use the hackamore, the more i'm convinced I'll never go back to the snaffle for my own horses. What Megabit said is correct, your hands and body have to be working properly to get the correct response out of the horse. People often try the traditional hackamore, find out that the horse doesn't respect it, them move to a "Bit-less" bridle or a mechanical hackamore in order to get the right response. If used correctly, the traditional hackamore will make the softest most sensitive horse that you've ever seen. Which is why it's used first in progression to straight up in the bridle. That softness and sensitivity is key to the spade. MB: I'm glad to hear that Steve makes bits too. I'm gonna have to have him make one for me after he gets yours done. I've been watching Richards DVD, lots of great info there, I'd recomend getting it to anyone who is interested not only in the history of traditional gear, but it's proper fit and function. Quote
Members entiendo Posted February 28, 2009 Members Report Posted February 28, 2009 A properly made and adjusted bosal has a quicker release then anything else used over the nose. It's all in how they are built. Traditionaly the bosal was used first, then the Two-rein, then straight up in the spade. The more I use the hackamore, the more i'm convinced I'll never go back to the snaffle for my own horses. What Megabit said is correct, your hands and body have to be working properly to get the correct response out of the horse. People often try the traditional hackamore, find out that the horse doesn't respect it, them move to a "Bit-less" bridle or a mechanical hackamore in order to get the right response. If used correctly, the traditional hackamore will make the softest most sensitive horse that you've ever seen. Which is why it's used first in progression to straight up in the bridle. That softness and sensitivity is key to the spade. My point is that most bosals are to HARSH...Now your right fit and make is everything but it appears most horse people do not fit their bosals properly or they can't afford a nicely made one, whatever the case is the horse suffers. I've never seen a horse that doesn't respect a bosal but I've seen a few that have been abused by one and even more that have been abused by mechanical hackamores. I hate those things. You are lucky to be able to make your own! So this fancy little bitless I have have is perfect because it fits a broader range of horses, it's easier for the average horse person to properly fit, and it's much more difficult to turn into an instrument of abuse. *I* also think my cues to the horse are much more clear but that's just my opinion. That said I'd like to make a bosal, but I'd like to use something more giving for a core...We'll see, I'm not ready for that yet. Quote
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