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Square feed refers to the feed frame system. It should have 4 corner contact to insure the feed is straight and true. The Campbell is designed with a square feed, which can pull straighter stitches on inclines and heavy materials. Needle feed is good, but in the needle and awl world, awl feed is better. The awl is stronger and less likely to flex or brake.

Thanks for the info CampbellRandall.

What would some examples of awl machines be?

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Thanks for the info CampbellRandall.

What would some examples of awl machines be?

I might be able to help you with this one. Some needle and awl stitching machines that have been made over the years are as follows:

1. Campbell Harness Stitcher

2. Randall Harness Stitcher

3. Landis #3

4. Landis #16

5. Randall Union Lockstitch

6. I also think the Cyclone was a needle and awl machine.

7. Champion narrow and wide throat machines

That is all I can think of right now.

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Ryan O. Neel

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I might be able to help you with this one. Some needle and awl stitching machines that have been made over the years are as follows:

1. Campbell Harness Stitcher

2. Randall Harness Stitcher

3. Landis #3

4. Landis #16

5. Randall Union Lockstitch

6. I also think the Cyclone was a needle and awl machine.

7. Champion narrow and wide throat machines

That is all I can think of right now.

Thanks Ryan. Those are all big, heavy, expensive machines, correct?

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Thanks Ryan. Those are all big, heavy, expensive machines, correct?

Yes, they are all very big machines. Some of the machines are not too bad in price. The Champion machines sell used here for as little as $500.00. But the problem is, you cannot get any parts for them anymore. If you need parts, you have to have somebody make them for you. That is part of the reason why the Champion machines sell for so cheap. They are obsolete by virtue that parts are extremely rare.

The other machines such as the Randall and Campbell machines will sell for more money, but you can still find parts for most of the other ones, except for the Cyclone. But I do hear Campbell is making some parts for them now.

Ryan O. Neel

Cowboy Sewing Machines

Neel's Saddlery and Harness

Offices in North Lima Ohio and Toledo Ohio

www.cowboysew.com

www.neelsaddlery.com

toll free: 1-866-507-8926

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I'll add to Ryan's list of Needle and Awl machines. The Needle and Awl is a unique American design for heavy leather goods. They are tough machines and will produce a tighter and cleaner stitches than modern closed eye needle machines. They are still very popular among custom leather workers and widely used for factory production of holsters, saddles, belts, harness, cases, etc.

References:

NEEDLE & AWL MACHINES

The BOSWORTH & the CYCLONE

  • 1. Campbell Harness Stitcher
    • Awl Feed
    • Current machines use a re-machined castings and are rebuilt from existing cores.
    • All internal parts are available as new except the main frame.

    [*]2. Randall Harness Stitcher (copy of the Campbell)

    • Awl Feed
    • Available as rebuilt or used.
    • All parts are available for the except the main frame.

    [*]3. Landis #3 (designed from the Campbell - patent states "Campbell type")

    • Awl Feed
    • Available as rebuilt or used.
    • Some parts are available. The #3 uses some parts that interchange with the Campbell. Other parts we build, or are modified Campbell parts.

    [*]4. Landis #16

    • Needle Feed
    • Available as rebuilt or used.
    • Some parts are available.

    [*]5. Union Lockstitch

    • Needle Feed
    • Available as new, rebuilt or used.
    • All parts are available.

    [*]6. Cyclone

    • Awl Feed
    • Available as rebuilt or used.
    • Campbell Bosworth stocks most parts. Some parts made on demand.

    [*]7. Champion narrow and wide throat machines (AKA - Peerless 30)

    • Needle Feed
    • Available as used.
    • Few parts are available. Some parts made on demand.

    [*]8. American Straight Needle

    • Needle Feed
    • Available as used
    • Narrow throat - only some parts available

    [*]9. The Bosworth

    • Developed around the turn of the century, it features a closed eye needle with an awl feed. The design must have been lacking, as records show most machines were returned for Campbells or similar models. Obsolote and nearly impossible to find.
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Has anyone bought the cub yet? used it in a production/semi production setting? Just wondering how the reviews of this machine are now that its had some time out there...

-ANdrew

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Just in case anyone is looking for Luberto, Ferdinand, etc, they are now back in CT at:

Luberto's Sewing Machines

29 Main St

Plainfield, CT 06374

(860) 564-8252

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