Members Curbstrap2 Posted October 15, 2009 Members Report Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) IT HAS OLD FASHION SLIP PIN FENDER LENGTH ADJUSTERS. COULD IT BE A BONA ALLEN AS THE SELLER SUGGESTS OR ??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130336734803 Edited October 15, 2009 by Curbstrap2 Quote
Members Curbstrap2 Posted October 15, 2009 Author Members Report Posted October 15, 2009 IT HAS OLD FASHION SLIP PIN FENDER LENGTH ADJUSTERS. COULD IT BE A BONA ALLEN AS THE SELLER SUGGESTS OR ??? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130336734803 Does anyone know when slip pin fender adjustments went out of fashion? Quote
King's X Posted October 15, 2009 Report Posted October 15, 2009 I looked in my "Saddles" book by Russell Beatie in the fenders chapter and could not find anything that resembled that type of single point pin. Sorry.....It looks like a nice saddle though. Quote
Members Curbstrap2 Posted October 16, 2009 Author Members Report Posted October 16, 2009 Anybody? Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted October 16, 2009 Moderator Report Posted October 16, 2009 Not to sound like a smart a--, but I don't think those pin adjusters ever were in fashion. Are you looking at this saddle to buy? From the pics there are some real design issues that make me think it was a bottom ender to start with. It starts with the stitching around the rigging plate perforate it, and ends with the latigo being strung through the slots on the rear jockeys to either carry the tail or some used that tails as a back billet to hang the rear cinch off. The strings laying over the sheepskin is not quite what most us would do and the seat shape is pure factory. I would maybe agree on the age, and probably the guess on general region it was made. Quote
Members Curbstrap2 Posted October 16, 2009 Author Members Report Posted October 16, 2009 Not to sound like a smart a--, but I don't think those pin adjusters ever were in fashion. Are you looking at this saddle to buy? From the pics there are some real design issues that make me think it was a bottom ender to start with. It starts with the stitching around the rigging plate perforate it, and ends with the latigo being strung through the slots on the rear jockeys to either carry the tail or some used that tails as a back billet to hang the rear cinch off. The strings laying over the sheepskin is not quite what most us would do and the seat shape is pure factory. I would maybe agree on the age, and probably the guess on general region it was made. lol, Bruce, you're not coming off as a smart ass at all. 'In Fashion' was probably not the correct term to begin with. Maybe popular or common would have been better? The seller did mention that the latigo hanger had been cut off at some point. I can't imagine why someone would do that, but anyway, yes, I am looking to buy this as a hunting saddle for light use. If there is a wreck or a horse rolls on it, I won't have a heart attack. Can you explain what you mean by this statement? 'It starts with the stitching around the rigging plate perforate it'. Thanks! Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted October 16, 2009 Moderator Report Posted October 16, 2009 Curbstrap, I have to suspect that rigging plate is riveted through the rigging piece and hopefully the skirt and plug underneath. That is a big assumption sometimes right there. The stitching all the way around (probably machine sewn) has perforated those layers of leather. With the age of this saddle, strength might be an issue to start with. Factor in a nice line of perforatins from the needle and it could unzip at a really bad time. Not to debate the whole geometry of riggings, but this looks like a good example of a bad example to me. It looks like that part angling up and forward is what is probably attached to the topside of the bars, right there in front of the pivot point. There is not much or any sort of obvious attachment behind that. Cinch it up and the forces will pull the front of the bar points down. Perforated and pulling the fronts down. Not a good combination for rider safety or caballo comfort. I am not a packer, but that whole idea of seats like this in any saddle and the whole rigging issue would send me looking elsewhere. That seat looks flat side to side, and then just drops straight down. It would have the comfort of stradding a crate all day. Factor in that ramped horn to cantle seat profile and it is formula for riding in and hiking out. As one of my senior pals said about one similar,"I'd rather ride any breed that starts with "A" than that kind of rig". He was quite colorful and direct. Quote
Members mulefool Posted October 16, 2009 Members Report Posted October 16, 2009 I'd have to agree with everything Bruce said. That seat looks pretty uncomfortable to me. I think after a day hunting you might WISH your horse would roll on it and break it. LOL Chris Quote
Members Curbstrap2 Posted October 16, 2009 Author Members Report Posted October 16, 2009 That is good info guys and I thank you for it. Can you tell me what you look for in a saddle for all day riding comfort for horse and rider? Quote
Members Curbstrap2 Posted October 17, 2009 Author Members Report Posted October 17, 2009 I'd have to agree with everything Bruce said. That seat looks pretty uncomfortable to me. I think after a day hunting you might WISH your horse would roll on it and break it. LOL Chris Guys, I took your advice and passed it by. There is always another one. Thanks for your input. Quote
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