More Fid Work

[lilpep]

here is another handle i've been working on these last couple of days. i made it with 20 strands (40 total) of horse rawhide. i can see alot of things i could have done better mainly because i made it and i am very critical of my own work but lets see what ya'll think? the pattern is a modification of made to a similar one i saw in a book any way here it is.

Edited March 3, 2010 by lilpep

[Aggiebraider]

Hey Lilpep,

I really like the graduated walling you did on the bottom (i assume bottom) end with the three knots getting successively smaller. I was having a little trouble figuring out the almost basketweave pattern in the middle, but I think it is U2 O2, U3 O3, U4 O4, U5 O5, with each change in number being a new string, please let me know if I am wrong, but I wasnt sure if that alternated in any way or if each strand that started U2 O2 continued in the same manner or if it changes to being an U2 O2 in one pass to being say U5 O5 in the next pass.

Great work on this, cant wait to get some leather and give fid work a go.

[megabit]

Wow that looks pretty dang good to me.

[jerryrwm]

Yanno... it's work like this that keeps the rest of us motivated and inspired. Not to be better than the other guy so much, but to improve what we have done in the past. My wife tells me that my best whip is always the next one I make.

I forget where I read the quote, but when someone asked a 70 year old braider how long it took him to make a particular piece, he leaned back in his chair, tilted his hat back and after as moment of reflection he replied, "it took me 70 years to produce that piece."

We are our most critical eye when it comes to our work. We know where we dropped a strand when making a whip, and we know where that thin strand that stretched a little too juch is, and we can always find where we started and finished a knot. They just jump out at us and we are surprised that others can't see it. So we either redo, or we make another and add the experiences and learning to the next best piece.

With all the above long-windedness above, I just wanted to say Great job. I'm looking forward to the next item you post.

Jerry

[lilpep]

thank you all for your feed back i am happy that ya'll like it and at least it will help me keep going.

aggie the pattern starts off where the ring knot is located. and it starts off as over two (in that section )from their i am working in sets of five the first string goes o5u4o4u1o4u1o4u1 and the pattern is evident after that fot the first strand the second string goes u2(after the over 2 as all the rest will follow) o1u4, third 02u3 forth u3o3u2 fifth ou404u1 the pattern repeats its self as you go but basically the first string is key and always working in sets of five as you can see the overs and unders always add up to five so every over and under adds up to 5 after the first pass. the second section is better to observe than the beggining as the pattern was developed better as i worked it out i will try to post another pic so you can look at it better

Jerry i think the quote is from Bruce Grant and thank you indeed for your comments. on the other hand like you say " this inspires" well comments like your and those of others along with my passion for the art is waht motivates me to keep going and getting better thanks and i'd like to see one of your whips when you can post one. i really do agree with the quote you mention, it has taken me a long time to get to where im at yet i think i can still improve alot. take care ya'll

[lilpep]

Hey Lilpep,

I really like the graduated walling you did on the bottom (i assume bottom) end with the three knots getting successively smaller. I was having a little trouble figuring out the almost basketweave pattern in the middle, but I think it is U2 O2, U3 O3, U4 O4, U5 O5, with each change in number being a new string, please let me know if I am wrong, but I wasnt sure if that alternated in any way or if each strand that started U2 O2 continued in the same manner or if it changes to being an U2 O2 in one pass to being say U5 O5 in the next pass.

Great work on this, cant wait to get some leather and give fid work a go.

here is the pic of the second section. dont pay atention to how i set up for the pattern because that all depends on how it is started as you can see at the beggining after the ring knot it starts over two but in this section after the crown knots it starts right away u1 05 in the first string the rest of the passes for the first string is u4o4u1o4u1o4 the first and second pass differ by one and then the pattern is o4u1o4 the rest of the strings follow as i explained before the most important thing is to watch you rpattern rather than follow a run list, thats what i did keep in mind when you want to transition out it will change a bit and take some work t keep the pattern consistent and set up for the pattern change. take care sorry i cant explain more i dont have a run list that i followed i just developed it as i went. keep in mind that this is usually done on a more cylindrical object i was a bit ambitious to try and do it on this kind of shape, as it posses problems for the ground work wich take more attetntion to detail. it would be best to start out on strait cylinders. and progress from there. hope this helps if not give me a shout and i will respond as i get a chance. chek out the videos Knothead (Brian) posted on the other thread they are almost all done and his web site is great to look at also.

take care.

[jerryrwm]

thank you all for your feed back i am happy that ya'll like it and at least it will help me keep going.

aggie the pattern starts off where the ring knot is located. and it starts off as over two (in that section )from their i am working in sets of five the first string goes o5u4o4u1o4u1o4u1 and the pattern is evident after that fot the first strand the second string goes u2(after the over 2 as all the rest will follow) o1u4, third 02u3 forth u3o3u2 fifth ou404u1 the pattern repeats its self as you go but basically the first string is key and always working in sets of five as you can see the overs and unders always add up to five so every over and under adds up to 5 after the first pass. the second section is better to observe than the beggining as the pattern was developed better as i worked it out i will try to post another pic so you can look at it better

Jerry i think the quote is from Bruce Grant and thank you indeed for your comments. on the other hand like you say " this inspires" well comments like your and those of others along with my passion for the art is waht motivates me to keep going and getting better thanks and i'd like to see one of your whips when you can post one. i really do agree with the quote you mention, it has taken me a long time to get to where im at yet i think i can still improve alot. take care ya'll

Here's a post of some of my whips and other items. Aggiebraider - maybe you might look at that maroon whip I posted and see what you think.

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=17757

Jerry

[Casey Jordan]

I'm not a brider, but that is some nice work.

[lilpep]

jerry nice very nice !!! i like your work. i wish i could do more roo but i dont know where to get some. i've seen the posts for suppliers here but havent really gotten around to investing in a hide. i might start selling my stuff one day !!! as of yet its only for me and practice .guess i need to figure out how to put my stuff out on the market

Edited March 3, 2010 by lilpep

[Aggiebraider]

Here's a post of some of my whips and other items. Aggiebraider - maybe you might look at that maroon whip I posted and see what you think.

http://leatherworker...showtopic=17757

Jerry

Jerry its funny you posted that I ran across that post a week or so ago and showed it to my roommate who is also an Aggie grad student like myself and we both thought it was great. That whip should be hanging in some old Ags place and never leave the wall. Great work!