ruthless Report post Posted March 9, 2010 We're going to be selling three different widths of dog lead and I'd like them all to have a different style of braiding. So far we have these two, are there any other ways? Strength is really important. I found these online, but I can't find any other photos and I can't figure out how they're done. Does anyone know? Is it strong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spence Report post Posted March 9, 2010 That type of braid goes by many different names, such as Magic or Secret braid. I've made a few leads that required the type of strength you're looking for, but I grew nervous about them during attack and protection trials. I've been told and am convinced that making so many cuts into a strap weakens the whole significantly. Hopefully, someone can disprove that because I really like the looks of that braid. I used a thinner leather and my cuts were 3/4" in length, 1/2" apart. You will most likely have to experiment on scrap before you find the key to the type and weight of your strap leather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruthless Report post Posted March 9, 2010 I don't think any of them are a magic /secret braid, are they??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) The braids look like 2 pieces inter locked. In one picture you can see a end and it looks like they were made out of bellies with all the wrinkles. The loops around the snap were used on bridle reins the times i have seen that. You do have the full thickness of the leather where it goes through the snap. Edited March 10, 2010 by dirtclod Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruthless Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Do you know what it's called so I can find instructions on how to do it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted March 10, 2010 In one of the Australian Bush Craft books by Ron Edwards ( not sure which one ) it shows how to do the part on the snap and i t may show how to do the interweave. I have moved my shop and haven't found my books yet. Their still lost in a box some place. You could try cutting slits in a couple of scrap pieces and see if that looks like the braided part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbusarow Report post Posted March 10, 2010 I don't know what you call it but here are some pictures of one taken apart and then going back together slowly. Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted March 10, 2010 That's it Dan. I think in the book they called it a Kimbelry Knot i'm not sure what it's here in the states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruthless Report post Posted March 10, 2010 Thank you so much, that's really great help Apart from those three, are there any other ways of braiding a leash? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted March 10, 2010 You could do a round braid or a flat braid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruthless Report post Posted March 10, 2010 I just googled those and they're made with several strands, yeah? We only use bridle leather, it wouldn't work, would it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted March 13, 2010 You could braid it but if it's pretty thick i don't think it would look to good. You might try a little bit and see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbusarow Report post Posted March 14, 2010 I just googled those and they're made with several strands, yeah? We only use bridle leather, it wouldn't work, would it? For the style I posted pictures of I do those in heavy harness leather skived down to around 8/10 or so. Bridle leather will work just fine. Dan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somawas Report post Posted March 21, 2010 Borrow a copy of Bruce Grant's Leather Braiding. Lots of easy braids. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Back Alley Report post Posted March 28, 2010 That's called a slit braid. The strap is folded over the clip or made into a loop for the handle. then the straps are slit in increments front and back in a stair step pattern.( ie. three slits, less than the strap width, on the front side and two slits on the back side, between the ones in front or as many slits as wanted but always one more on the front side) Then you pass the back strap through the top front slit and the front (which is now the back) through the next slit and the next and the next etc. Always working the back through the front. Then it looks like the loose end is riveted to the top strap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kanga Report post Posted April 15, 2010 I've always called that a gulf knot and yes they're strong, I use them on bridle reins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ruthless Report post Posted April 17, 2010 My handy husband figured it out :D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hazyside Report post Posted May 3, 2010 I have a few dog leads that I wanted to repair. They look similar to the leash on the left side on the first pic. I made a few practice runs on some old leather belts, but im having a hard time keeping the slits consistant and centered. Is there a jig or tool to make them easier to produce? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hazyside Report post Posted May 6, 2010 anyone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Penden Report post Posted May 6, 2010 I think braided leather with multiple strands would look fine and be strong enough. If it's not, you could always go to kangaroo leather The 3 strand magic braids I've tried did seem to be weaker so I don't recommend that for leashes. The strands do not interlock as much as they would on a round braid. To get my cuts even I mark the back of the leather with a pen and cut from the back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hazyside Report post Posted May 12, 2010 Is there a special punch or tool to make these slits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gamekeeper Report post Posted June 9, 2010 Apologies for the resurrection. Can anyone tell me what the brading / splicing is called on the handle of the leads in the pictures? I really like the look of it & fancy giving it a go, might start off in scrap before I move onto bridle leather!! Many thanks Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites