Denster Posted June 6, 2010 Report Posted June 6, 2010 Simply put you do not want a flat bed machine for making the kind of holsters you make. Won't work don't bother trying. Put together between $700 and $900 and watch ebay for a use Tippmann Boss. It is a great machine for sewing holsters and you may never need anything else. It will make you money and when you are ready to step up to a powered machine you can sell it and get back your money or maybe a profit. It is also simple, easy to learn and you can work on it yourself. For a beginner those are all important things. Quote
Moderator Art Posted June 7, 2010 Moderator Report Posted June 7, 2010 The Denster is giving good advice. If I can make an addition, get a cast iron Boss and don't short stroke ANY Boss. Set it up to sew 346 thread and don't mess with it. Other than that, you'll make more holsters with the Boss than any of the other machines you have questioned about. If you want a powered machine for holsters, a 441 clone is your best bet, if you are doing cowboy holsters with bullet loops, a long arm (16.5") and a needle positioning motor is a nice option. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Cobra Steve Posted June 7, 2010 Report Posted June 7, 2010 The oblong plate (above the gold oval) should tell you the model, and the stitch length is adjusted with the know just above it (up and down in the vertical slot). Does this help? JLSleather is right. The model# will be on that plate. Looks like a 31-15 or 31-20 to me, although Wizcrafts could be right. Either way, this is a tailors machine. Also the picture of the Consew is a 226. Thanks, Steve Quote Thank You Steve Tayrien Leather Machine Co., Inc. 2141 E. Philadelphia St. Unit "U" Ontario, California 91761 1-866-962-9880 http://www.leathermachineco.com cobra@leathermachineco.com
Members busted Posted June 8, 2010 Members Report Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) This is all I know so far... AJ- 419721 422720 31 3000 March 3 1950 This is where the info above came from! According to the Singer chart this is a model 31 sewing machine. It does not have reverse but it has stitch length adjustment you should be able to get around 3/8th inch material under the pressure foot. It will not do to make holsters. Most holsters are 3/8 to 1/2 inch thick. The knee lift will allow more material under the pressure foot than lifting with the rear needle bar lift. These are nice old machines the would work for chaps, chinks, wallets, bags or what ever you make that is less than 3/8th's inch thick. Keep this machine and buy a machine that will sew the 1/2 to 3/4 inch material. If you purchase new equipment you will spend a lot of money. Be a little patient and see if you can find a machine you can afford and will do what you want it to do. Good hunting, for a bargain that is. They do exist. Edited June 8, 2010 by busted Quote
Cobra Steve Posted June 8, 2010 Report Posted June 8, 2010 Can you guys and gals please help me with this machine. It was given to me and the former owner sewed leather with it, but I don't know what thickness leather I can stitch and he is now passed away and I am unsure about some things. I tested it going through ~1/4" of leather and it went through fine, but the stitches are very very close. Can you space them out? Any info you can give me would really really help!! Thanks a million in advance!! Hello all! I think I have figured out what this machine is. If you go to the 6th picture down, you will see the brass plate. Just above the brass plate is the model number. If you click to enlarge, then put on your reading glasses, you can see the bottom of all 4 numbers. The first number has a rounded bottom, like the number 3, the second number is the bottom of a number 1, then there is a space, then the third number is also the bottom of a number 1, and the last number is also rounded(a little different than the number 3) like the number 5.....hence, 31 15. This machine is a 31-15. For more detective work please call Cobra Steve at 1-866-962-9880. That's all for now rookies! (Ha Ha). Quote Thank You Steve Tayrien Leather Machine Co., Inc. 2141 E. Philadelphia St. Unit "U" Ontario, California 91761 1-866-962-9880 http://www.leathermachineco.com cobra@leathermachineco.com
Moderator Art Posted June 8, 2010 Moderator Report Posted June 8, 2010 How about that clutch, I just love old iron, but getting a little old to be lifting it. Art Hello all! I think I have figured out what this machine is. If you go to the 6th picture down, you will see the brass plate. Just above the brass plate is the model number. If you click to enlarge, then put on your reading glasses, you can see the bottom of all 4 numbers. The first number has a rounded bottom, like the number 3, the second number is the bottom of a number 1, then there is a space, then the third number is also the bottom of a number 1, and the last number is also rounded(a little different than the number 3) like the number 5.....hence, 31 15. This machine is a 31-15. For more detective work please call Cobra Steve at 1-866-962-9880. That's all for now rookies! (Ha Ha). Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members Kate Posted June 19, 2010 Members Report Posted June 19, 2010 It does look like my faithful old 31-20, and it's pretty doggone CLEAN, very good looking setup - that clutch and motor are gorgeous. Nothing wrong with having it in the shop, there are a lot of uses for a good 31 class - especially if you can get a nice roller foot and dog for it. Mine does mostly light leather, heavy clothing and horse blankets - it is fantastic for a lot of things - zipper replacement, fer instance. But, it's not a heavy stitcher, and I'd purely hate to try to build a holster with it I went from all hand stitched straight to my wonderful Cobra class 3 - (thanks Steve!) for heavier stitching. Quote KATE'S CUSTOM GUNLEATHER and KATE'S CUSTOM BRIDLEWORKS Sultan, WA USA
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