amuckart Report post Posted June 9, 2010 Hi all, I'm looking at a couple of machines for medium-weight work. One is a cylinder arm Seiko LSC-8BV compound-feed cylinder arm machine with a synchronized binder, and the other is an Adler flat-bed compound feed machine. I'm interested in these for both light-medium weight leather work, cuffs, wallets, belts and the like, and for doing canvas work on up to 8 layers of 12oz canvas. I'm interested in people's opinions of them, availability of parts & feet etc. The Seiko is set up as a binder, which is useful for some of what I'd like to do with it, but I'm also interested in using it without that so I'm wondering how easy they are to remove, or at least get out of the way if I want to sew things without binding them. Neither are particularly new, but I don't know how old. The asking price for the Seiko is about NZ$900 and the Adler is starting at NZ$500, but may well go for more than that. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Steve Report post Posted June 9, 2010 Hi all, I'm looking at a couple of machines for medium-weight work. One is a cylinder arm Seiko LSC-8BV compound-feed cylinder arm machine with a synchronized binder, and the other is an Adler flat-bed compound feed machine. I'm interested in these for both light-medium weight leather work, cuffs, wallets, belts and the like, and for doing canvas work on up to 8 layers of 12oz canvas. I'm interested in people's opinions of them, availability of parts & feet etc. The Seiko is set up as a binder, which is useful for some of what I'd like to do with it, but I'm also interested in using it without that so I'm wondering how easy they are to remove, or at least get out of the way if I want to sew things without binding them. Neither are particularly new, but I don't know how old. The asking price for the Seiko is about NZ$900 and the Adler is starting at NZ$500, but may well go for more than that. Thanks. Hi amuckart, both are good machines, however parts for the Seiko are easier to find, and less money than the Adler. Seiko and Consew parts are interchangeable. Presser feet, bobbins, needles, and some plates as well. Some Singer, Brother, and Juki parts will fit as well. Thanks, Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amuckart Report post Posted June 9, 2010 Hi amuckart, both are good machines, however parts for the Seiko are easier to find, and less money than the Adler. Seiko and Consew parts are interchangeable. Presser feet, bobbins, needles, and some plates as well. Some Singer, Brother, and Juki parts will fit as well. Thanks, Steve Thanks Steve. I went and had a play with the Seiko tonight and I think I'll buy it. The bobbin is a bit tetchy, but I've got my 45k for bigger jobs (once I put it back together) and the machine seemed in good nick and ran smoothly. Now I'll need to get some smaller binder shells for it since the smallest one he had was 3/4". Any idea where I can find them? Parts cost is a bit of a concern for the Adler, but they seem to have a good reputation. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Steve Report post Posted June 9, 2010 Thanks Steve. I went and had a play with the Seiko tonight and I think I'll buy it. The bobbin is a bit tetchy, but I've got my 45k for bigger jobs (once I put it back together) and the machine seemed in good nick and ran smoothly. Now I'll need to get some smaller binder shells for it since the smallest one he had was 3/4". Any idea where I can find them? Parts cost is a bit of a concern for the Adler, but they seem to have a good reputation. Thanks. Hi amuckart, usually an attachment maker handles that type of binder, however, you may find what you need at a industrial sewing machine store. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amuckart Report post Posted June 9, 2010 Thanks Steve. I've remembered I have a stack of old domestic double-fold binder shells I can probably retrofit, so we'll see how that goes. Do you think US$600 is a fair price for a machine like this in good condition? Cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra Steve Report post Posted June 10, 2010 Thanks Steve. I've remembered I have a stack of old domestic double-fold binder shells I can probably retrofit, so we'll see how that goes. Do you think US$600 is a fair price for a machine like this in good condition? Cheers. Hi amuckart, if it does what you want it to do, then it is. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites