Singer 33K3

[amuckart]

Hi all,

I've come across an auction for a Singer 33k3. It's a roller foot drop-feed machine that looks like it's bigger than a 45 but smaller than a 97 (ok, so that's a pretty big range I admit). Stylistically it looks more like a 97 than a 45 though.

I can't find anything about these machines on the 'net. Does anyone have any information on them?

Cheers.

[CowboyBob]

It's a 133K3 if youlookup that # I'm sure you'll find something.It can sew about the same as a 45K only it can sew @ a higher speed if needed because it has a rotary hook,alotof parts are still available for it,but not the case f/45K

It can sew maybe 3/8" or alittle more.

Bob

[amuckart]

It's a 133K3 if youlookup that # I'm sure you'll find something.It can sew about the same as a 45K only it can sew @ a higher speed if needed because it has a rotary hook,alotof parts are still available for it,but not the case f/45K

It can sew maybe 3/8" or alittle more.

Bob

Thanks Bob, much appreciated. The auction had it listed as a "33k3" which would explain why I couldn't find any information on it. Speed isn't an issue for me so it doesn't look like it'll do anything my 45k won't, assuming I can ever get my 45k actually working. Currently it's providing me with a great education on rebuilding machines (and making me wish I had the cash to order a CowBoy from Jim over on Oz) but learning experiences are good, right?

[CowboyBob]

Your right the 45K is a great machine to learn on & if your like my customers you'll really apreciate the new Cowboy when you get it.

So you don't need this 133K just try to save your $$ for that new machine.

Bob

[jimsaddler]

Your right the 45K is a great machine to learn on & if your like my customers you'll really apreciate the new Cowboy when you get it.

So you don't need this 133K just try to save your $ for that new machine.

Bob

Hi Al

The 133K3 class are more suited to canvas work than the 45K class. They are run at speeds of 1.200 stitches per minute against the 45K's at 600 SPM, also the lift is not as good.

I still run a 45K style Machine (Cowboy 105) on an old Singer Treadle (Peddles backwards) from the 1890's for my fancy Stitching on Harness. It's unbeatable and they are very reasonably priced to-day. There were Families in England that were 45K25 operators for generations. That says something for the versatility of this grand old Machine.

I met a young Lady some years ago who's Family was in this category. Great Grandmother down to Great Grandchildren were all 45K contractors and made from Wallets to Fancy Purses, Motor Bike Bags, Instrument Cases, Boots, Saddlery, Belts, Leather Wear and so many other products it would take all day to list them. She worked for me for 2 weeks of her Holiday's teaching several employees Head Collar sewing. The result was amazing, it humbled me as I thought that I was good till then.

I wonder if anyone in the Forum knows any of these Highly Skilled Crafts Women who can give us some tips in using the 45Ks?

By the way Al I've got a nice Pearson A1 Head now with original Decal, in near working condition. One small part missing that is easily remade. It's Black.

Kindest Regards.

Jim Saddler.

[amuckart]

G'day Jim,

The 133K3 class are more suited to canvas work than the 45K class. They are run at speeds of 1.200 stitches per minute against the 45K's at 600 SPM, also the lift is not as good.

That's good to know, thank you. I'll give this machine a pass.

I still run a 45K style Machine (Cowboy 105) on an old Singer Treadle (Peddles backwards) from the 1890's for my fancy Stitching on Harness. It's unbeatable and they are very reasonably priced to-day. There were Families in England that were 45K25 operators for generations. That says something for the versatility of this grand old Machine.

It's funny, I get a lot of comments from people who hear I'm rebuilding a 45k who say that they were great machines and I'll really enjoy working on it when it's done, and I think they're right.

I met a young Lady some years ago who's Family was in this category. Great Grandmother down to Great Grandchildren were all 45K contractors and made from Wallets to Fancy Purses, Motor Bike Bags, Instrument Cases, Boots, Saddlery, Belts, Leather Wear and so many other products it would take all day to list them. She worked for me for 2 weeks of her Holiday's teaching several employees Head Collar sewing. The result was amazing, it humbled me as I thought that I was good till then.

I wonder if anyone in the Forum knows any of these Highly Skilled Crafts Women who can give us some tips in using the 45Ks?

Sadly I suspect that people like that are few and far between in the western world these days. There don't seem to be many folk any more who follow their parents into manual trades, let alone their grandparents, but wow, four generations of people all trained on the same machine really says something about the strength of the industry in their time, and the longevity of the 45k machines.

By the way Al I've got a nice Pearson A1 Head now with original Decal, in near working condition. One small part missing that is easily remade. It's Black.

I'd love to see pictures if you have any. My A1 head and frame are off to get soda blasted next week so any pictures of the original livery would be greatly appreciated.