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Thank you folks. I am actually about to set a 'groon (noticed that people seem to spell it in a lot of different ways!) batch today and try out both ways, of course just on small scrap bits for a starter. ;)

Because my name is "overkill", I think about adding some strong coffee and strong tea to the batch, I heard that more tannins make the 'groon work more effectively. Of course there are tannins in the leather itself, but a little help might be good, besides it should add some color too. And if I am happy, it ends up having a little aroma of tea and coffe, and and not only vinegar. LOL

Skald: I wouldn't add the coffee or tea to the batch of 'roon'. Just brew it up separately and dunk the item in the that which you don't drink, let the item dry just a bit.......so it ain't dripping , then into the 'roon'. You are adding the tannins to the leather....not to the 'roon'. That's how I do mine. Here's the last one I did just that way......the streaks seen are actually 'stretch marks' not seen in the leather 'till it came out of the vinegar black.......not variations in the color. Mike

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Skald: I wouldn't add the coffee or tea to the batch of 'roon'. Just brew it up separately and dunk the item in the that which you don't drink, let the item dry just a bit.......so it ain't dripping , then into the 'roon'. You are adding the tannins to the leather....not to the 'roon'. That's how I do mine. Here's the last one I did just that way......the streaks seen are actually 'stretch marks' not seen in the leather 'till it came out of the vinegar black.......not variations in the color. Mike

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Thanks for the input. I made a batch today, and could not stay clear of it, and tried dipping a small piece of scrap leather in it already after about an hour. I let it soak for like slightly less than 60 seconds, and it was well on it's way to go black already. It was like "coffee brown" on the upper part, a little "blue'ish" in the middle, and shady black at the bottom. I didn't add any coffee or tea, at least not yet. Seems that particular leather has enough of tannin already. I'll probably use the 'groon on monday, and I expect it to have even more power by then. :)

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