8 Bight 9 Part Pineapple- Need Help

[Vaquero1]

Hi, i ve started braiding and i´ve got some books from bruce grant and woolery... in this books is a heel knot only as a 6bight, 7 part pineapple (2 and 3 pass). i do understand how i can do a 8 bight, 9 part with 2 pass but now i wanna know how i can expand them to a 3 pass???

please gimme some support how i can do this and how i can expand with some interwaves in differend collors ( i mean 1 or 2 srands only in the middle)

thanks

Micha el Karacho

[KnotHead]

Over at youtube you can find a good little video on that.

[Vaquero1]

Thanks Knothead- That was exactly what i was searching for!!! - GREAT ;-)

[Vaquero1]

i´ve seen, that the Video tutorial is for a 6 bight and not for a 8 bight, 9 part pineapple- so i still need support!!! ;-)

[megabit]

If you can expand a 4 bight to a 6 bight you should be able to increase a 6 to a 8 or a 10, 12, 14...

It just gets a little harder to keep track of where you are at. I never could really adapt to different sizes of the same knot until the little light went on inside my head and I understood what I was doing vs following a cook book. I am afraid that might not be as much help as you want but if that light comes on you will get it no problem.

Mike

[Vaquero1]

Hi Mike,

thanks for your Post,

what i do not understand is, that with the 6 bight i go O2,U2,O2...up to finish with O3,U3,O3...

when i have an 6 bight and wanna do the 3pass, i can not go O2,U2,O2, because there are a few strings left? how is the pattern and do i have to cross U3x and U5x on the ends???

[Vaquero1]

Mike, you are right, i worked on the knot a few hours yesterday and now i got it. its just the same as it is on the 6 bight... the key is -to make no mistakes!! ;-)

i used a differend color for the second string and so it was easyer for me to follow in the right order...

[megabit]

Mike, you are right, i worked on the knot a few hours yesterday and now i got it. its just the same as it is on the 6 bight... the key is -to make no mistakes!! ;-)

i used a differend color for the second string and so it was easyer for me to follow in the right order...

Yes, a second color is a big help on multiple interweaves. I kept getting lost one time and didn't have any different color string so I colored it with a sharpie. I figured it would rub off but it actual stayed colored. Faded a bit though.

[skyout]

Hi Mike,

thanks for your Post,

what i do not understand is, that with the 6 bight i go O2,U2,O2...up to finish with O3,U3,O3...

when i have an 6 bight and wanna do the 3pass, i can not go O2,U2,O2, because there are a few strings left? how is the pattern and do i have to cross U3x and U5x on the ends???

Bud Brewer gave us these Os & Us:

I don?t know anything about types, an I definitely don?t know anything about the math of these things. Long ago I sat down an figured out the way the passes go under an wrote it down. Lost it an so, redid it again. I think it is correct. Maybe this will help with the knots

PINEAPPLES

2 pass ? first pass under 2 at the top, under 2 at the bottom. There after, under 3 both top and bottom. (basic pineapple)

3 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 4 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 5 at bottom

4 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 6 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 7 at bottom

5 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 8 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 9 at bottom

6 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 10 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 11 at bottom

http://khww.net/photogallery.php?photo_id=699

Hope it helps.

Edited September 22, 2010 by skyout

[Vaquero1]

2 pass ? first pass under 2 at the top, under 2 at the bottom. There after, under 3 both top and bottom. (basic pineapple)

3 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 4 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 5 at bottom

4 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 6 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 7 at bottom

5 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 8 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 9 at bottom

6 pass ? first pass under 2 at top, under 10 at bottom. There after under 3 at top and under 11 at bottom

Great- that helps a lot...

thank you!!!!