Ambassador Luke Hatley Posted October 12, 2010 Ambassador Report Posted October 12, 2010 Luke, I'm thinking gillies might be too much on top of the kilt belt, sporran/straps I'm already making. And, I'll use the belt and sporran stuff, not sure I'd wear gillies after this is over with.. But, I could take some upholstery leather and make some of these, perhaps: Hopefully you will impress the Clan with embossed lines on the straps...But i beleive the Gillies will be the right way to go Iff'in you or they are wearing a Kilt.LOL.... missed you today......... Quote Luke
Members druid Posted October 13, 2010 Members Report Posted October 13, 2010 Just read this post. Bagpipes - the bag's made from sheepskin (okay, they do nice goretex ones now that you don't need to 'season') but the purists still like the original leather ones as they can muck about with treacle and stuff to keep them airtight. And the valve on the blowpipe was leather (platic and rubber now but I still use a leather one - just something else you can use offcuts for). HEY HEY! I'm one of those "purists"! :D ...lol. I HATE the Goretex and my Pipe Major is forever on my tail about getting one. As a retired grade II Piper, I still use to this day, an L&M Elk Skin bag [large]. They just "feel better" because they have substance...not like the Hefty Hefty cinch sacks...uh...I mean...goretex. In fact, my L&M is 21 years old and in that time, my Pipe Major has replaced his Goretex bag FOUR TIMES.... ...I also prefer my cane drone reeds to the plastic ones..although...for competition, you try to sound as "one" as much as possible... All the different sorts of sporrans with various dead animals on the front (badger, deer, otter, seal, horsehair and so on - until CITES made some of that difficult). Just a few random thoughts. Gary One thing I'm surprised I haven't seen in this thread is mention of the targe. They were usually just just leather stretched over wood and secured with nails, but they often were very intricate with tooling. I was in fact, going to post that ^^ ...lol. Also, a coat of plates as armor: and these Ghillies seem more historically correct than those posted: Quote
Members Nighthawk Posted November 11, 2010 Members Report Posted November 11, 2010 I was in fact, going to post that ^^ ...lol. Well then, I thought I might just throw this into the mix... I made this targe to go with my Renaissance festival costuming! It's not exactly historically accurate because of the color, but it certainly works: Beanie baby wars!! The leather I used on this was junk. It sat in a friend's basement for like 3 years. I spent several trying to soften and restore it. I oiled it, I cased it... and it still cracked when I unrolled it! Still it came out fairly nice for what I had to work with. So this is a thought on the historical side of things. Leather mugs were also common: Here's a link to some good information on the history of leather drinking vessels, too. http://www.hidebound.co.uk/history.htm Quote "I intend to grow old disgracefully"-- Steve Harris (Bass player for Iron Maiden- I am not Steve!!) “Bowing to peer pressure is normally the weakest way to deal with an issue.” - McElt (I am not McElt either.)
Members budd4766 Posted November 11, 2010 Author Members Report Posted November 11, 2010 The speech went off quite well the other night. I made my own sporran, straps, and kilt belt: I talked about that coat, (which is actually called a "jack"), being a leather or canvas coat with metal plates riveted in...they'd also hang chains from the bottom to help protect their legs from sword slashes. Armor, at least as we envision it from T.V., would have been a rare sight in ancient Scotland. The terrain and tactics of the highlanders required them to be more mobile...and plate armor just wouldn't cut it for them. I talked about how the Scots were known for being frugal....and that any people who would come up with haggis, knew how to get the most out of the animals they slaughtered... I took a piece of cowhide and did a demonstration of how they would make ghillies. The picture I posted previously is pretty historically accurate, as they wouldn't worry with tanning the hide they used for these "shoes", but would wrap it around their feet....fresh off the animal, and strap it on. They'd wear these until they fell off, or they killed another animal. The highlanders weren't very worried about fashion as much as they were about functionality. Life for a highlander was so hard, only the clan chiefs could afford to worry about being pretty. All in all, I think they were duly impressed. Got a lot of good comments afterward, so I was happy. Thanks to all for the help! Donnie Quote
Members Nighthawk Posted November 11, 2010 Members Report Posted November 11, 2010 The speech went off quite well the other night. I made my own sporran, straps, and kilt belt: I talked about that coat, (which is actually called a "jack"), being a leather or canvas coat with metal plates riveted in...they'd also hang chains from the bottom to help protect their legs from sword slashes. Armor, at least as we envision it from T.V., would have been a rare sight in ancient Scotland. The terrain and tactics of the highlanders required them to be more mobile...and plate armor just wouldn't cut it for them. I talked about how the Scots were known for being frugal....and that any people who would come up with haggis, knew how to get the most out of the animals they slaughtered... I took a piece of cowhide and did a demonstration of how they would make ghillies. The picture I posted previously is pretty historically accurate, as they wouldn't worry with tanning the hide they used for these "shoes", but would wrap it around their feet....fresh off the animal, and strap it on. They'd wear these until they fell off, or they killed another animal. The highlanders weren't very worried about fashion as much as they were about functionality. Life for a highlander was so hard, only the clan chiefs could afford to worry about being pretty. All in all, I think they were duly impressed. Got a lot of good comments afterward, so I was happy. Thanks to all for the help! Donnie Wow!! I love the color of the sporran!! Guess I came in on this a little late, though! Glad it went off well. Quote "I intend to grow old disgracefully"-- Steve Harris (Bass player for Iron Maiden- I am not Steve!!) “Bowing to peer pressure is normally the weakest way to deal with an issue.” - McElt (I am not McElt either.)
Members budd4766 Posted November 11, 2010 Author Members Report Posted November 11, 2010 Thanks! I stained the belt, sporran, and straps with Fiebings' Ox Blood. I thought that would go well with this kilt.. Quote
Members Nighthawk Posted November 12, 2010 Members Report Posted November 12, 2010 Thanks! I stained the belt, sporran, and straps with Fiebings' Ox Blood. I thought that would go well with this kilt.. It's a good red! It does indeed suit the tartan well. I haven't used Ox Blood yet. How does it differ from the regular red? Quote "I intend to grow old disgracefully"-- Steve Harris (Bass player for Iron Maiden- I am not Steve!!) “Bowing to peer pressure is normally the weakest way to deal with an issue.” - McElt (I am not McElt either.)
Members budd4766 Posted November 12, 2010 Author Members Report Posted November 12, 2010 Well, don't be shocked when you put the first coat on...it'll be really pink...but as you ad more, it gets this really nice dark "blood" color... You can play with it a bit, for example, get it darker in the middle of a piece and lighter around the edges....like blood would do. I like it... Quote
Members Nighthawk Posted November 12, 2010 Members Report Posted November 12, 2010 Well, don't be shocked when you put the first coat on...it'll be really pink...but as you ad more, it gets this really nice dark "blood" color... You can play with it a bit, for example, get it darker in the middle of a piece and lighter around the edges....like blood would do. I like it... I'm making a trip to Tandy to pick up a stamp and some latched today. I may have to get some and give it a try. Sounds like it would work well out of an airbrush- which I just got! I've been looking for an excuse to start playing with it... Quote "I intend to grow old disgracefully"-- Steve Harris (Bass player for Iron Maiden- I am not Steve!!) “Bowing to peer pressure is normally the weakest way to deal with an issue.” - McElt (I am not McElt either.)
Members hoosier122 Posted December 19, 2010 Members Report Posted December 19, 2010 http://www.onlygolfballs.com/msg10.htm I'm sure there are other leather/Scotland/golf connections too. Quote
Members bead Posted January 7, 2011 Members Report Posted January 7, 2011 May I have your site? I want to wholesale the leather, thank you . Quote Large Hole Beads
Members tat2 Posted March 29, 2011 Members Report Posted March 29, 2011 http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=29558&st=0&p=185247&hl=sporran&fromsearch=1entry185247 Quote "You are responsible for the energy which you bring into THIS space." Stephen O'Ceallaigh 001-647-637-5229 http://greenmanleather.ca sales@greenmanleather.ca
Members budd4766 Posted March 30, 2011 Author Members Report Posted March 30, 2011 tat2, that's a sweet lookin' sporran! Love the idea of using the tartan swatch in the construction....looks great! Quote
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