Members rgerbitz Posted January 20, 2011 Author Members Report Posted January 20, 2011 Button strings are usually in the 2-3/32 range. I rarely get below 1.5/32 on any string. Maybe on string less than 2/32. The 3 wraps will cover in an over 2 under 2. If you want do an over 3 under 3 you would cut back on the bights. And turn back your first interweave on the outside of the foundation. Which I will do on some of the larger diameter bosals in an over 2 under3. There is a sort of magical ratio of width to thickness, I don't have it figured out. But I did have someone tell me once that the thickness should be aproximately 1/3 of the width. I like me strings to stand up a little more and most times I'm probablly over 1/3. The bosal in this post was braided out of latigo and if I remember right those strings were in the4-5/32 neighborhood. And maybe 2/32 thick. Quote http://gerbitzquarterhorses.com/
Members want2braid Posted January 23, 2011 Members Report Posted January 23, 2011 Thank you very much for your time and efforts! I appreciate it. I just got on here and will post some of my braiding pics to get critiqued soon! Ive been braiding for about 2 years and am really driven to get better at it. Thanks for sharing your experience! You are definately a braider to look up to! Have a great weekend! Button strings are usually in the 2-3/32 range. I rarely get below 1.5/32 on any string. Maybe on string less than 2/32. The 3 wraps will cover in an over 2 under 2. If you want do an over 3 under 3 you would cut back on the bights. And turn back your first interweave on the outside of the foundation. Which I will do on some of the larger diameter bosals in an over 2 under3. There is a sort of magical ratio of width to thickness, I don't have it figured out. But I did have someone tell me once that the thickness should be aproximately 1/3 of the width. I like me strings to stand up a little more and most times I'm probablly over 1/3. The bosal in this post was braided out of latigo and if I remember right those strings were in the4-5/32 neighborhood. And maybe 2/32 thick. Quote
Members megabit Posted January 24, 2011 Members Report Posted January 24, 2011 Thank you very much for your time and efforts! I appreciate it. I just got on here and will post some of my braiding pics to get critiqued soon! Ive been braiding for about 2 years and am really driven to get better at it. Thanks for sharing your experience! You are definately a braider to look up to! Have a great weekend! Hmm Temecula, braiding 2 years, reining horses, Bret C perhaps? If so those hobbles you posted on Facebook sure looked nice. Quote
Members want2braid Posted May 19, 2011 Members Report Posted May 19, 2011 Rob, How's it going? I just tied my first single strand long button for the nosebutton on a bosal. You replied to me about a 3 wrap. I was wondering with the specs you gave me, how many bight do you usually use? I did a very short 6 1/2'' nosebutton, on a lariat rope for loping hackamore, so the diameter wasn't really big. I used 3/32'' string, 3 wraps, and 6 bights, and ended up making the whole thing over 3 under 3 to make it complete. I just built it up like expanding a heel knot, but I saw you said something about turning back your first interweave outside of the foundation? How do you go about doing that? Thanks again for the help, the strands I cut to your suggestions and braided up really nice for 16 plait 5/8'' body. Have a great week! Brent Button strings are usually in the 2-3/32 range. I rarely get below 1.5/32 on any string. Maybe on string less than 2/32. The 3 wraps will cover in an over 2 under 2. If you want do an over 3 under 3 you would cut back on the bights. And turn back your first interweave on the outside of the foundation. Which I will do on some of the larger diameter bosals in an over 2 under3. There is a sort of magical ratio of width to thickness, I don't have it figured out. But I did have someone tell me once that the thickness should be aproximately 1/3 of the width. I like me strings to stand up a little more and most times I'm probablly over 1/3. The bosal in this post was braided out of latigo and if I remember right those strings were in the4-5/32 neighborhood. And maybe 2/32 thick. Quote
Members rgerbitz Posted May 21, 2011 Author Members Report Posted May 21, 2011 Hello Brent, sounds like you could have gone to an 8 bight on that and been ok. But o3, and u3 has a nice look to it. As for turning back outside the foundation I'm not sure I can explain it but I'll try. When making the first pass, at the top, instead of crossing under 2 you would continue on up and cross over 2 before entering the foundation again. If I get some time soon I'll try and post some pictures. Quote http://gerbitzquarterhorses.com/
Members want2braid Posted May 23, 2011 Members Report Posted May 23, 2011 Rob, Yeah, I should have just went to an eight bight, and thought maybe, but my last nosebutton was too tight. The wonders of braiding. I just found you on facebook. I posted pictures of it just the other day when I got done. Going out side of the foundation like the way Bryan Neubert says to do a heel knot on the first DVD he made? I'll have to try and find it and see. The o3, and u3 is pretty cool though, its a unique look, so i'm happy with it being the first time and all, I was just mostly wondering about how to go outside the foundation like you said, and keeping the v's straight. Thanks, for the great tutorial, and all of the aftermath advice. Have a great week! Hello Brent, sounds like you could have gone to an 8 bight on that and been ok. But o3, and u3 has a nice look to it. As for turning back outside the foundation I'm not sure I can explain it but I'll try. When making the first pass, at the top, instead of crossing under 2 you would continue on up and cross over 2 before entering the foundation again. If I get some time soon I'll try and post some pictures. Quote
Members rgerbitz Posted May 24, 2011 Author Members Report Posted May 24, 2011 I'm still at a loss as to how to explain running the 1st interweave outside, but as for the v's being straight, I have some suggestions. On my ground work I will often take a pen and divide things up into four quarters. Drawing the lines vertically. You can used those lines once the foundation is tied to help get every thing evenly spaced out around the knot and get the v's lined up before moving on. Quote http://gerbitzquarterhorses.com/
Members megabit Posted May 25, 2011 Members Report Posted May 25, 2011 Brent, If you have Braiding Rawhide Horse Tack by Robert L. Woolery he does a fairly good job explaining doing interweaves beyond the foundation knot. Quote
Members want2braid Posted May 26, 2011 Members Report Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks, I do have that! I finally found the first Bryan Neubert dvd to watch too, and I believe he ties a heel knot by going out side of the foundation instead of going under 2 that forms a x. If I remember right he said that this would make the knot grip tighter around the the groundwork, but I need to watch it to confirm my sometimes day dreaming! lol Thanks for the suggestion buddy! Brent, If you have Braiding Rawhide Horse Tack by Robert L. Woolery he does a fairly good job explaining doing interweaves beyond the foundation knot. Quote
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