Members PHIPPS CRAFTED LEATHER Posted December 16, 2010 Members Report Posted December 16, 2010 Hey all, I have a guy that wants me to put a thumb strap on a holster. I have only made open top holsters. I can figure out how to make the straps, my question is what if any inserts would be need for stiffness and retention. Quote
Mike Craw Posted December 16, 2010 Report Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) I've had decent success using a fairly short thumb break with double thickness leather. If my leather winds up being too thick for the post on the snap, I punch a hole big enough for the female snap half to fit down into and get clenched on the post. As long as the second thickness is fairly close around it, the whole assembly stays rigid. Other guys on here have also found a source for the stamped steel stiffener. Somebody will probably jump on here in a little while and provide it, or you could do a search. Hope this helps. Mike Edited December 16, 2010 by Mike Craw Quote My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference. Harry S. Truman
Members troop Posted December 16, 2010 Members Report Posted December 16, 2010 i have used .085 thickness kydex as in insert in the past. always worked out well. Tony Quote The hand that feeds you also puts the chains around your neck.
Members PHIPPS CRAFTED LEATHER Posted December 16, 2010 Author Members Report Posted December 16, 2010 Thanks, so you only stiffen the inside strap, nothing on the outside strap. I want to prevent the outside strap from flopping around if I can or should. Quote
Mike Craw Posted December 16, 2010 Report Posted December 16, 2010 I don't set the inside (male) snap until the holster is finished and the gun is inserted. Then I draw the strap tight over the rear of the frame (under the hammer for 1911 c/l or over for d/s action pistols and revolvers, and press the female side against the strap. I usually cheat toward the tight side of the center of the resulting circle, and set the male snap. Worked pretty well for the last 29 years. Mike Quote My choice early in life was either to be a piano-player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference. Harry S. Truman
Members usmc0341 Posted December 16, 2010 Members Report Posted December 16, 2010 I don't set the inside (male) snap until the holster is finished and the gun is inserted. Then I draw the strap tight over the rear of the frame (under the hammer for 1911 c/l or over for d/s action pistols and revolvers, and press the female side against the strap. I usually cheat toward the tight side of the center of the resulting circle, and set the male snap. Worked pretty well for the last 29 years. Mike Do you do this when the holster is wet or dry? This is how I did my one and only thumbsnap and it got loose pretty quickly (maybe a few weeks) and I went on the tight side when I set it. Quote
Members Bronson Posted December 16, 2010 Members Report Posted December 16, 2010 (edited) I don't set the inside (male) snap until the holster is finished and the gun is inserted. Then I draw the strap tight over the rear of the frame (under the hammer for 1911 c/l or over for d/s action pistols and revolvers, and press the female side against the strap. I usually cheat toward the tight side of the center of the resulting circle, and set the male snap. Worked pretty well for the last 29 years. Mike I'd love to see pics of 1911 c/l holsters with thumb straps. I'm having a hard time placing the strap/snap so it 1) fits nice and tight to the back of the slide and 2) doesn't interfere with the thumb safety. I can get one or the other but not both to my satisfaction. Bronson Edited December 16, 2010 by Bronson Quote
Members Shooter McGavin Posted December 17, 2010 Members Report Posted December 17, 2010 (edited) I'd love to see pics of 1911 c/l holsters with thumb straps. I'm having a hard time placing the strap/snap so it 1) fits nice and tight to the back of the slide and 2) doesn't interfere with the thumb safety. I can get one or the other but not both to my satisfaction. Bronson One of my first holsters I ever made, and my first ever with a thumb break, so dont expect it to be perfect, but its an idea if nothing else. I could post some design stage pics if that might help with your layout. Edited December 17, 2010 by Shooter McGavin Quote Zlogonje Gunleathers
Members Bronson Posted December 17, 2010 Members Report Posted December 17, 2010 Thanks for the pics Shooter McG but I notice that the thumb safety has been disengaged by the retention strap. That's what happens to mine if I put the snap/strap in that location. I can move the snap a little foward but then the strap doesn't sit nice and tight to the back of the slide. Thanks again for the pics. Bronson Quote
Members katsass Posted December 17, 2010 Members Report Posted December 17, 2010 Hey all, I have a guy that wants me to put a thumb strap on a holster. I have only made open top holsters. I can figure out how to make the straps, my question is what if any inserts would be need for stiffness and retention. I have had good luck doing as Mike Craw has described, however I use(d) a steel stiffener in them. Waaay back (35 yrs or so) I would break off the ends of old hack saw blades to use as stiffeners. I'd grind the edges smooth and shape as necessary and drill a second hole on the un-drilled end. Now I use stiffeners obtained from High Desert Leather in Utah. I make very few holsters with a thumb break however. Here are a couple of ones done over 20 years apart.........the first is for a little Llama .380 (basically a mini-1911) and had no problem with the 1911 style safety......made in the early '80s. The second is for an old Beretta 'Brigadier'.......made about a month ago. Mike Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
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