Members want2braid Posted February 18, 2011 Members Report Posted February 18, 2011 Hey, Your welcome! Just for your info, the 8 strings crowned to start is an 8 bight, like mine was 5. Its not doubled in bites and strings and thats why you can use 5 and 7 and not just 6 and 8. As Mike was saying you will count double the bites on a gaucho because you turn it back and go outside over a strand and back under two, so it makes it twice. A 6 bight gaucho 12 and 5 bite 10 etc. I ll try and take pics when I get back from Wyoming. And, let me know how the rawhide venture goes. I plan on meeting up with Clint, when I get to Oklahoma, so maybe you can meet us there? Brent Hey Ann, Welcome to LW! Its always nice to get more braiders in here Hey want2braid, Thanks for clearing that up. I thought I had it right in my head, but when I tried to write it down it didnt come out right lol. I guess I should have written down more and taken a few pics thanks for doing that for everyone lol. CW Quote
Members want2braid Posted February 18, 2011 Members Report Posted February 18, 2011 Nate helped with that for a good reason. Your button takes the shape of your groundwork. I made 20 buttons of 2.5/32'' and some were really good 8 bight pineapple and gaucho knots and others seemed lop-sided. The tape smashed out of shape as I tied it, and tighten as I went. Thats where the more stable rawhide or leather foundation comes in. Also, some people use a wrap of leather and put a brass tack through the body work and leather to anchor it, or Nate said you could grove the leather and take a needle and string under a few strands through the leather wrapped around the body, wrap around a few time tight and tie it off. With a grove there the string is flush with the leather foundation. Yes. Nate really doesn't like anything "synthetic" (that is the impression I got). I wanted to do round knots and he had me tie a 4-strand ring knot as the foundation base. It is actually turning out really well. He builds foundations up with leather or rawhide and I believe uses Barge cement. The reason he does not like tape was that over time it will basically disintegrate and turn into dust. One foundation that I have used and like is to glue the area that the knot is to be braided over, glue a strand of excess leather lace, taper the ends and make a foundation. If it needs to be built up further, small strips of kangaroo or another thin leather would work. I think it is ok to use 1 wrap of tape. He just didn't want the foundation to be all tape. I didn't really say what I do with the lace. I wrap it around and around until I have covered the area to be braided. Quote
Members Aggiebraider Posted February 18, 2011 Members Report Posted February 18, 2011 Hey,Your welcome! Just for your info, the 8 strings crowned to start is an 8 bight, like mine was 5. Its not doubled in bites and strings and thats why you can use 5 and 7 and not just 6 and 8. As Mike was saying you will count double the bites on a gaucho because you turn it back and go outside over a strand and back under two, so it makes it twice. A 6 bight gaucho 12 and 5 bite 10 etc. I ll try and take pics when I get back from Wyoming. And, let me know how the rawhide venture goes. I plan on meeting up with Clint, when I get to Oklahoma, so maybe you can meet us there? Brent Yeah that would be great, just let me know when youre moving down and I will try to have some stuff finished to bring with me. CW Quote
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