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Looking at sites like these: http://www.biker-wallets.com/ and http://www.onetoomanydesign.com/leather/index.html you see quite some "custom made silver details", and I don't know really how they make them. I do have some experience both from wax carving, casting and soldering etc. when it comes to silver, but maybe that makes me even more confused. I mean, how do you make "snap buttons", rivets etc. with those silver adornments? I haven't seen things like these IRL, just pictures, so it's a but difficult to grasp. And I don't have like $500 to purchase a wallet, just for looking at. ;)

So, if anyone have a clue, or even experience from anything similar, please fill me in!

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Much of that stuff is availible commercially; get off your duff and start searching the internet. Tandy even has a selection of the skull and biker doo daws.

(John 8:32) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. (KJV)

And the truth is that religion is nothing more than the lame attempt by largely ignorant people to

bring sense and order to a world that was beyond their comprehension. Once you see religion for the

delusional and superstitious artifact it is............... you will be free !

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I don't know anything about casting silver either. But if you carve wax you might be able to make a mold and do a lost wax casting. I think that's what it's called. My guess is they silver solder a chicago screw to the casting to attach it to the bill fold. If you type in sliver working forms and lost wax casting their are several places telling how to do it. Good luck.

I'm old enough to know that i don't know everything.

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i'll bet you're right, dirt......it's easy to solder a coin to a snap or a copper rivet (for instance). i'm betting that's similar to what was done here.

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Yeah, I have seen that there are stuff commercially available, but I have ideas for own designs, and that's what's causing me the bugs in my brain. ;)

I'll try soldering some scrap silver to a snap button, I think that might be the easiest thing to solve. But when it comes to that loophole thing for example here http://www.onetooman.../hannoid_fr.jpg I really can't think of any solution. I can do wax carvings and castings etc., but I am quite sure I can't manage to make a silver eyelet, that's a little too much precision work hehehe... Well, I'll do some field investigations during the summer, and see what I can come up with. :)

Edit: Been thinking of this with soldering some silver design directly to a rivet, and can't see much of a problem in doing that in itself (depending on what sort of rivet it is, if it's chromed, it will eventually fall off along with the chrome). But how on earth would I be able to fix that rivet? It would probably ruin the silver design thing quite instantly (by either hammering or using an arbor press). I could perhaps put some layers of soft skin under it, but then the snap would probably not set properly, due to the problem of keeping it straight etc. So, I guess it would be best if I made the silver thing with sort of "prongs" on the backside, and a matching washer with holes underneath. And then (my English is really not good enough for this!) put the prongs through holes in the leather, and put the washer at the back of the leather, slide the prongs through the holes of the washer, and then sort of "hammer them down" the old time rivet way. I thought of soldering the thing on the backside, but then realized the leather would burn pretty badly. ;) And then of course, just set a regular snap rivet on another piece of leather, and sew both parts together - hiding both the washer thing, and the back of the snap rivet.

That's probably the best solution I can come to think of, most other ways are ruled out either by the element of heat, or the pressure to set snap rivets. I must make some prototype thing out of scrap material, and see how it holds up.

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Best bet would be to use somthing like this:

http://www.tandyleat...ts/1290-02.aspx

Might be useful, if I grind off the nickel plating before soldering. Soldering on any "plating" will cause problems sooner or later. I'll go to my father's workshop tomorrow and try soldering a piece of silver to a rivet, just to make sure it works. Thanks for the tip.

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Those wouldn't take much to pull free and the concho be lost i wouldn't think, plus it looks like the profile would be a lot higher. JMO

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