Hilly Posted June 10, 2008 Report Posted June 10, 2008 Does someone make an edge beveler that cuts the edges round instead of flat bevels? Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted June 10, 2008 Moderator Report Posted June 10, 2008 Hilly, In no particular order - Ron Edmonds (Rons Tools - www.ronstools.com) Round bottom edgers. Barry King - bisonette edgers. Jeremiah Watt(www.ranch2arena.com) round bottom edgers, bisonette edgers, Vizzard pattern edgers. Bob Douglas may still have some left, but is out and wasn't planning to make any more of some sizes. You won't go wrong with any of these guys' tools. Be aware that size numbers are not interchangable between makers. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Hilly Posted June 10, 2008 Author Report Posted June 10, 2008 Hilly,In no particular order - Ron Edmonds (Rons Tools - www.ronstools.com) Round bottom edgers. Barry King - bisonette edgers. Jeremiah Watt(www.ranch2arena.com) round bottom edgers, bisonette edgers, Vizzard pattern edgers. Bob Douglas may still have some left, but is out and wasn't planning to make any more of some sizes. You won't go wrong with any of these guys' tools. Be aware that size numbers are not interchangable between makers. Thanks, Bruce. These make nice convex edges, right? Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted June 10, 2008 Moderator Report Posted June 10, 2008 Yep, nice convex edges. and I find them much easier to sharpen/strop than the other slotted style edgers. On the bisonette you need to be careful to use the right radius or you will enlarge the hole and make the cuts progressively wider. Also need to be carefull on the bisonettes so you are not running into the opposite edge if you are using power equipment. My wife prefers the bisonettes, the forward edge is like training wheels. Other than that, I'll go back to the slotted ones when they pry my cold dead hands off any of these I have. (Not an original phrase). Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Hilly Posted June 10, 2008 Author Report Posted June 10, 2008 Ooooh, MAN! I think I need to work a little overtime.... Sticker shock, ya know? Still, I'd rather have round edges than flat ones . Quote
Leather Bum Posted June 11, 2008 Report Posted June 11, 2008 Yep, nice convex edges. and I find them much easier to sharpen/strop than the other slotted style edgers. On the bisonette you need to be careful to use the right radius or you will enlarge the hole and make the cuts progressively wider. Also need to be carefull on the bisonettes so you are not running into the opposite edge if you are using power equipment. My wife prefers the bisonettes, the forward edge is like training wheels. Other than that, I'll go back to the slotted ones when they pry my cold dead hands off any of these I have. (Not an original phrase). Bruce, When you said, "slotted style edgers," were you referring to the CS Osborne-style curved-bottom edgers? If so, I think I can agree: I can hardly get the one I have as sharp as I want. . . L'Bum Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted June 11, 2008 Moderator Report Posted June 11, 2008 LBum, Those are the style I was referring to. I just have trouble getting down in that slot to strop and get a decent thin edge. I used the rouge on a string deal, rouge on the edge of hard cardboard, and on the wider ones I used rouge on the edges of firm thin leather. Those Osbornes seemed to be the best in that style edger too. Some of them are sharpened at a pretty steep bevel. Looks like some makers cut that slot with a wheel. If they lose the "hollow" and go on through, or you sharpen them up a few times and get past it, you have a steeper draggy edge. In my hands that led to chatter marks on softer leather. For the time I spent tuning them up, I am time = money ahead to use the more open end style of edger. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Members Go2Tex Posted June 11, 2008 Members Report Posted June 11, 2008 Ditto all the above but for someone starting out or on a budget, you can get decent round edges from the cheaper bissonnetts from Osborn. They just don't come as sharp or stay that way. But, heck, like you say, time is money and if I spend an hour trying, unsuccessfully to sharpen a dang edger, I could have just gone and bought a new one! ...or, several. Those open edgers are great for long straight edges but really suck on the curves, especially the tighties. That's when I grab for that el cheapo bisssonnnettte that I broke trying to sharpen it. It's now a great little tight curve, open front, round edger. Of course I had to buff it smooth but it edges my skirt wool and even gets into those tight spots triming the cheyenne roll binding. I keep it REEEALLY sharp, though. As for sharpening these buggers, try a wood dowl of the right diameter wrapped with very fine sandpaper or emery cloth and then strop on the edge of your strop board. Quote Brent Tubre email: BCL@ziplinkmail.com
gtwister09 Posted June 11, 2008 Report Posted June 11, 2008 Suggestion - Quick and Dirty Method One of the suggestions that I can make for newly purchased bisonettes is to first measure them. A quick method is to take drill bits and use these to measure the hole by placing the shank portion (not the fluted/twist end)across the bisonette hole. Record the diameter of the drill bit. Now you need to know the thickness of the sandpaper (wet/dry, emory cloth). Record this thickness. Subtract the thickness of the sandpaper from the diameter of the drill bit. This will be the size of drill bit to use with the sandpaper so that you DON'T enlarge the bisonette hole size. In purchasing older bisonettes this is one of the issues with them is that they have been ENLARGED - sometimes greatly. Now you can use the smaller drill bit and sandpaper combination to clean up knicks and such with your bisonette edgers. As always use your rogue and final dress them up. Regards, Ben Quote
Members Go2Tex Posted June 11, 2008 Members Report Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) hmmm...... sounds like a great idea using drill bits. Only problem is, I never have the right sized bit and it's my luck that the thickness of that sandpaper wouldn't make a wit of difference. I'd still end up with a bigger hole. But, alas, at least the drill bits are good and round and hard, so.... what the heck. My question is, why doesn't Jerimiah Watt make a number 6? His 5 is just a bit too small for my skirts and I ain't takin' no chances on those babies with an open end edger! Probably how folks end up with those fancy scalloped skirts. heh heh Edited June 11, 2008 by Go2Tex Quote Brent Tubre email: BCL@ziplinkmail.com
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