GianniWest Report post Posted September 21, 2011 For my first saddle, I use an old tree in good condition. The only problem is that I can not remove all the glue set before. There are specific products to remove the glue and thoroughly clean the rawhide that covers the tree? Thank you very much Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted September 21, 2011 If you can get thinner made for glue it might take the old glue off. Of if it's not bad you may be able to leave it. Do you have a picture of the tree ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barra Report post Posted September 21, 2011 Most adhesive removers are acetone based. Acetone is available from most hardware stores - get an MSDS sheet as well and wear appropriate PPE. The 3M company also produce an adhesive remover. Barra Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted September 22, 2011 (edited) Thank you Barra, is a good idea. @ dirtclod: here are the photo Edited September 22, 2011 by GianniWest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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CWR Report post Posted September 23, 2011 Gianni, I would put another coat of laquer on that tree. CW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted September 23, 2011 Gianni, I would put another coat of laquer on that tree. CW The Laquer is the Rawhide? You'll put on or take off the old one? Actually I had thought but I think that it is difficult for me. I'm ordering a bit 'of stuff from U.S., will also take a rawhide skin and we feel. Let's see how it is. My english is from google translation, excuse me if I write things incomprehensible. Thank tou very much CWR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CWR Report post Posted September 23, 2011 No Gianni, don't take the rawhide off just put a coat of lacquer on it to seal the old nail holes. You can get it at the hardware store. Good luck, CW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted September 23, 2011 No Gianni, don't take the rawhide off just put a coat of lacquer on it to seal the old nail holes. You can get it at the hardware store. Good luck, CW Thank tou CWR, I have much need luck, really;) I can not translate the LACQUER:ranting2: !!! The translator tells me "LACCA", but we use it to comb hair and we buy it at the barber:lol: However, now I go to a hardware store and I see to solve. Thank you very much for your suggestions and your patience Gianni Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CWR Report post Posted September 23, 2011 Thank tou CWR, I have much need luck, really;) I can not translate the LACQUER:ranting2: !!! The translator tells me "LACCA", but we use it to comb hair and we buy it at the barber:lol: However, now I go to a hardware store and I see to solve. Thank you very much for your suggestions and your patience Gianni glad to help. Try varnish in the translator. CW Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted September 23, 2011 Right! Thanks, I'll keep you informed:yes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denise Report post Posted September 23, 2011 I have been told it is much harder to build a saddle on an old tree that has been built on before because of all the old holes in it. I would suggest filling all the old holes with something like auto body filler, making sure everything is smooth and then giving it a couple coats of varnish before you start. The smoother everything is the better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted September 23, 2011 Jes Denise, I have bought a similar product, I hope it goes well. Is this, CWR, I hope so Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denise Report post Posted September 23, 2011 vernish = vernice?? according to Google Translate here anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted September 24, 2011 Google does not help me. However, I have purchased a product like a paste to close the holes and trim the uneven. I think that should work. However, in truth, I'm thinking of taking a new tree By gianni Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
compound Report post Posted September 24, 2011 I think, rawhide cover on old tree need new coat of SHELLACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denise Report post Posted September 24, 2011 However, in truth, I'm thinking of taking a new tree I know that would make building the saddle a lot easier for you and I think you will be happier with it in the end. Why put a new building on an old foundation, especially one that doesn't look to be in good condition to start with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted September 25, 2011 True! I ordered an SF BOWMAN from Bowden Saddle Tree! Now I hope not to ruin it Thank you very much for your valuable advice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aurelie Report post Posted October 17, 2011 you will more likely "ruin" 1 or 2 hides of leather...before ruinning the saddle tree! Keep us posted on how is going your 1st saddle building! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted October 21, 2011 Work in progress I hope so Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harrington Report post Posted October 22, 2011 I'm not familiar with the two-piece tin strainer, how are they connected? If they are only covered with the two pieces of leather groundwork, won't they separate and collapse? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted October 23, 2011 I'm not familiar with the two-piece tin strainer, how are they connected? If they are only covered with the two pieces of leather groundwork, won't they separate and collapse? I hope not. I am following the DVD by Dusty Johnson. However, it seems very robust. We will see! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted October 23, 2011 Small, difficult progress ... other advancements coming weekend!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aurelie Report post Posted October 27, 2011 Your fork cover looks nice! i doid not had the "guts" to try this so far but it's in a corner of my mind Regarding your "flat plates" (to me) they look like a bit too big or long i do not know what others (more experienced) think about it but as for me, i ve been taught to "srew" the back something like under the cantle (where it meets the bars) and not on the back of the bars i do not know if there are several ways of placing flat plates or not or what are the pros and cons of doing it one way or another way... Any master saddle maker around to give his opinion? But anyway : keep going! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GianniWest Report post Posted October 27, 2011 Thanks Aurelie, I do not know what to tell you, it's my first saddle and I have enough experience. I must say that I really like the seat, the rest going on to try to store the points that I need to improve (the ones that I can find), and go ahead! I want to congratulate you for your works, I saw your site and the works are very beautiful. Since you are in neighboring France, I would like to ask you if you are getting in Europe of producing high-quality tree, or even if you import them from the U.S. sorry for my bad english and thanks again Gianni Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
