AEH Report post Posted October 3, 2011 Hi leatherworkers, I don't have much experience inleather working , I have made a few knife sheats (Norwegian type) and basicbelts, but have decided to try out my skills in more advanced work. I have found anadvertisement for a sewing machine, which I think have the right looks for aleather working machine . But as a novice in this erea, I have no knowledgeof sewing machines. The seller havenever used the machine, and don't have any knowledge of the intended use. Hedescribes the machine as unused, but don't have a manual for it. The only other information from the seller isthat the needle type is 134R size 18/110. I have searched theInternet, but can't find much about this model. The only information is from amodel listing at http://www.duerkopp-adler.com/ ,discribing it as "Einnähen vonZwischensohlen; 1 Nadel, Hüpfertransport, abgeschrägterArmkopf, Kalifornia-Spezialführung". My German is lacking, but I do understand that this machine is intended for sewing in midsoles. I am planning to make double layer belts, wallets and cardholders, and maybe simplebags. Will a post bed machine like this be usefulfor this kind of work? I will be verygreatful if anybody can give me some advice about this machine. Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted October 4, 2011 The only other information from the seller isthat the needle type is 134R size 18/110. This fact tells me that the machine is meant to sew thin, soft leather, with thin thread. It is the perfect machine for doing decorative stitching on boots. It is a great machine for sewing shoe uppers, moccasins, caps and hats. As for belts, maybe dress belts, no thicker than 3 mm, using T-70/B69 bonded nylon thread. The #18/110 needles are perfect for #69 bonded thread. The 134R needles are for sewing cloth, not leather. You should stock up on leather point 134-LR needles for sewing leather projects. Schmetz are about the best needles you can buy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AEH Report post Posted October 5, 2011 This fact tells me that the machine is meant to sew thin, soft leather, with thin thread. It is the perfect machine for doing decorative stitching on boots. It is a great machine for sewing shoe uppers, moccasins, caps and hats. As for belts, maybe dress belts, no thicker than 3 mm, using T-70/B69 bonded nylon thread. The #18/110 needles are perfect for #69 bonded thread. The 134R needles are for sewing cloth, not leather. You should stock up on leather point 134-LR needles for sewing leather projects. Schmetz are about the best needles you can buy. Wizcrafts, thank you for shearing your knowledge! I believe that this is not the right machine for me, then. I will send your info to the seller, a good thing for everybody if he knows what he is selling . There is also a Pfaff 483 flat bed mahine for sale here, which probalby will suit my needs better? This one is used and at twice the price, so I'll have to think about it ... Thank again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted October 5, 2011 Hi Arvid I have also seen this machine for sale, and some other Norwegian leatherworkers have called me for advice on this machine. To add something to what Wiz is writing. I do not believe this is an unused machine, the paint do not look original. The machine must be at least 40 years old; looking at the parts that should be chrome color you, will se wear and rust. It looks like someone has painted up an old machine and tries to sell it as an unused one. I have advised the other ones to stay clear of this deal. This machine does takes a bit thicker tread than 69-bonded nylon, but it does not have the other qualities of a saddler machine needs. You want a cylinder arm machine who takes thick thread. I do have a few leatherworking machines myself, and I might want to sell one of them. Please send me a PM or an email and I will give you more information on this matter. Trox. Hi leatherworkers, I don't have much experience inleather working , I have made a few knife sheats (Norwegian type) and basicbelts, but have decided to try out my skills in more advanced work. I have found anadvertisement for a sewing machine, which I think have the right looks for aleather working machine . But as a novice in this erea, I have no knowledgeof sewing machines. The seller havenever used the machine, and don't have any knowledge of the intended use. Hedescribes the machine as unused, but don't have a manual for it. The only other information from the seller isthat the needle type is 134R size 18/110. I have searched theInternet, but can't find much about this model. The only information is from amodel listing at http://www.duerkopp-adler.com/ ,discribing it as "Einnähen vonZwischensohlen; 1 Nadel, Hüpfertransport, abgeschrägterArmkopf, Kalifornia-Spezialführung". My German is lacking, but I do understand that this machine is intended for sewing in midsoles. I am planning to make double layer belts, wallets and cardholders, and maybe simplebags. Will a post bed machine like this be usefulfor this kind of work? I will be verygreatful if anybody can give me some advice about this machine. Thank you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
