Needle And Awl Machines

[Steven Kelley]

I'm currently using a CB4500 to sew all my items, and love it. My holster business has grown to the point where I'm going to add a second machine after the new year. This machine will serve two purposes. First, it will allow my helper (wife) and I to both stitch at the same time when needed. Most likely setting up each machine with a different color of thread, to eliminate or reduce the amount of times I have to thread the machine with a different color of thread. The second reason for another machine is to eliminate any downtime if I have some sort of machine failure (broken feet, motor, etc.) All the other equipment I use can be acquired locally, but not a stitching machine. I just want to have a second machine as a safety factor to protect my ability to get orders out quickly. I think my volume has gotten to the point where it's justified, at least to me.

So I've been going back and forth in my mind about machine selection. Since I already have one machine, the first thought was just get a second one just like it. Then, all the accessories would fit either. But then I keep thinking that I should get a needle and awl machine, like a Campbell or Landis 3. I know the stitching of the Campbell is tighter and looks the same front and back. Since I've never used one, and I'm sure there would be a learning curve, I just can't decide what the best course of action is.

So, for those of you who have used both types of machine, what are your thoughts on this? Am I better off having 2 identical machines, or having a Needle & Awl machine that will give me a better stitch? If I did get one, I'm pretty sure it would be a Campbell, and I would make a trip to Yoakum to be shown how to use it.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

[Wizcrafts]

If you would consider a Union Lockstitch machine, mine is for sale. It is a needle and awl machine.

[Wizcrafts]

The advantage of buying a second machine identical to your exiting model is they can be setup the same, sharing bobbins and needles.

As for the stitch quality, the Campbell-Randall-Bosworth produces the nicest stitch. The Union Lockstitch produces the second nicest and the tightest stitch. The Union sells for less money, new and used than the Campbell. Both are sold and serviced in Yoakum, Texas.

There is a learning curve on either of these machines. They are totally different than a closed eye needle machine.

[Art]

I have two 441 machines (big Highlead machines) only because they are setup radically different. One for sewing regular veg tan stuff and the other for fabric like Kevlar and Nomex. In a pinch (and about 20 minutes) I could set either up to backup the other. I have 3 hook and awl machines, 2 Landis 12s (current set up for different colors) and a Campbell set up for linen thread. The learning curve on the hook and awl machines is steeper, especially if you do your own maintenance. I don't know if I would go the extra 4 or 5 grand to get another Campbell, one is enough. I might get a Campbell Cyclone if one came my way, it's like dangling a feather in front of a cat.

If you are close to Yokum, get some up close time with a Campbell, you might get hooked (and awled).

Art

I'm currently using a CB4500 to sew all my items, and love it. My holster business has grown to the point where I'm going to add a second machine after the new year. This machine will serve two purposes. First, it will allow my helper (wife) and I to both stitch at the same time when needed. Most likely setting up each machine with a different color of thread, to eliminate or reduce the amount of times I have to thread the machine with a different color of thread. The second reason for another machine is to eliminate any downtime if I have some sort of machine failure (broken feet, motor, etc.) All the other equipment I use can be acquired locally, but not a stitching machine. I just want to have a second machine as a safety factor to protect my ability to get orders out quickly. I think my volume has gotten to the point where it's justified, at least to me.

So I've been going back and forth in my mind about machine selection. Since I already have one machine, the first thought was just get a second one just like it. Then, all the accessories would fit either. But then I keep thinking that I should get a needle and awl machine, like a Campbell or Landis 3. I know the stitching of the Campbell is tighter and looks the same front and back. Since I've never used one, and I'm sure there would be a learning curve, I just can't decide what the best course of action is.

So, for those of you who have used both types of machine, what are your thoughts on this? Am I better off having 2 identical machines, or having a Needle & Awl machine that will give me a better stitch? If I did get one, I'm pretty sure it would be a Campbell, and I would make a trip to Yoakum to be shown how to use it.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.