hh1302 Report post Posted January 26, 2012 Every time I try to send email to the address on his site, it comes back as not deliverable. I want to order a set of cards, but also want to know the availability/wait time before I send billing info online. Anyone heard from him lately? Hugh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Denise Report post Posted January 26, 2012 I know he is still making cards. I don't know the wait. I sent off an e-mail showing him this thread. Hopefully he will pop in here. If you want, PM me and I can give you the e-mail address I have for him and see if it works or not for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go2Tex Report post Posted January 26, 2012 I'm interested also. Please keep us posted on the status. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisLane Report post Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) I'm interested also. Please keep us posted on the status. Hi Hugh. I don't know why the link on the web site doesn't work, the orders that are placed there are coming though fine. We did have a lot of problem with spam at one stage, and when we changed the web site that was fixed. I am a member here and do look in from time to time.You can PM me though here if you like, or my email address is , dmlane at aapt dot net dot au , hopefully if I write it this way I won't attract unwanted traffic. For those that order a set of cards please be patient, it is taking about 4 weeks on average for me to process orders. I do apologize for the time frame but it is the best I can do for now. For those that have received their set of cards. If you need any help though the learning curve, please don't hesitate to contact me. Dennis Edited January 26, 2012 by DennisLane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go2Tex Report post Posted January 26, 2012 Hi Hugh. I don't know why the link on the web site doesn't work, the orders that are placed there are coming though fine. We did have a lot of problem with spam at one stage, and when we changed the web site that was fixed. I am a member here and do look in from time to time.You can PM me though here if you like, or my email address is dmlane at aapt dot net dot au hopefully if I write it this way I don't attract unwanted traffic. For those that order a set of cards please be patient, it is taking about 4 weeks on average for me to process orders. I do apologize for the time frame but it is the best I can do for know. for those that have received their set of cards. If you need any help though the learning curve, please don't hesitate to contact me. Dennis Dennis, I checked out your webpage and watched the video and I must say I was very impressed. I believe you have an excellent system and I plan on ordering at least one set, maybe a couple. Have you been able to establish a chart of tree specs from your cards? In other words, can I just take the results of which cards fit and match them to a particular bar angle, width, rocker etc.? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DennisLane Report post Posted January 27, 2012 (edited) Brent. The short answer is yes, that is the idea. What you have to do to make this work for you, is make up a chart for every tree maker that you use. If you talk to your tree maker or makers they may already be using the system and have done this for you. There is a learning curve on the calibration side. The cards take care of the identifying of the shape. Dennis. Edited January 27, 2012 by DennisLane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go2Tex Report post Posted January 27, 2012 Brent. The short answer is yes, that is the idea. What you have to do to make this work for you, is make up a chart for every tree maker that you use. If you talk to your tree maker or makers they may already be using the system and have done this for you. There is a learning curve on the calibration side. The cards take care of the identifying of the shape. Dennis. OK, sounds good. I look forward to using the system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod and Denise Nikkel Report post Posted January 27, 2012 I wrote a blog post about how we work with the Dennis Lane system. http://www.rodnikkel.com/content/index.php/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/how-we-use-the-dennis-lane-equine-back-profiling-system-numbers/ We agree with Dennis that this is how everyone needs to correlate what they order from every maker with what their maker's specs are, because every maker does thing differently, you know... However, we don't go around publishing what our correlations are for a few reasons. One is that our specs won't be everyone else's specs for the same fit. (I wrote the Bar angles: why the numbers are meaningless between makers web page to help explain why: http://www.rodnikkel.com/content/index.php/tree-and-saddle-fitting/bar-angles-why-the-numbers-are-meaningless-between-makers/) Another reason is that people have differences in how they like a tree to fit. (Imagine, not everyone agrees on saddle fit. Hmmm...) Plus there is so much to learn about horses' backs when you have an objective standard to compare them to, and so you can compare between horses as well. Once you know "The backs are the same here but different in this section", you can put up the same tree on both horses and check those differnt places. You see things you didn't notice before. I know we have learned a lot using it. Have fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go2Tex Report post Posted January 27, 2012 I wrote a blog post about how we work with the Dennis Lane system. http://www.rodnikkel.com/content/index.php/saddle-tree-blog-from-shop-and-desk/how-we-use-the-dennis-lane-equine-back-profiling-system-numbers/ We agree with Dennis that this is how everyone needs to correlate what they order from every maker with what their maker's specs are, because every maker does thing differently, you know... However, we don't go around publishing what our correlations are for a few reasons. One is that our specs won't be everyone else's specs for the same fit. (I wrote the Bar angles: why the numbers are meaningless between makers web page to help explain why: http://www.rodnikkel.com/content/index.php/tree-and-saddle-fitting/bar-angles-why-the-numbers-are-meaningless-between-makers/) Another reason is that people have differences in how they like a tree to fit. (Imagine, not everyone agrees on saddle fit. Hmmm...) Plus there is so much to learn about horses' backs when you have an objective standard to compare them to, and so you can compare between horses as well. Once you know "The backs are the same here but different in this section", you can put up the same tree on both horses and check those differnt places. You see things you didn't notice before. I know we have learned a lot using it. Have fun! Loved the articles. Great info and instructions on measuring. May I have permission to link to them from my website? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hh1302 Report post Posted January 27, 2012 Cards ordered. Thanks for all the help and info, Denise and Dennis. Now if I could just get someone to respond to my other posts.....LOL Hugh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rod and Denise Nikkel Report post Posted January 28, 2012 Loved the articles. Great info and instructions on measuring. May I have permission to link to them from my website? Sure, go ahead Brent. Glad you find the information useful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KKS Report post Posted November 1 Hi, I know.This is an older thread, So hopefully someone can help. I have ordered The card system back in june. The payment was taken. I realize theres a wait time but it's been Five months and no word. I Have tried contacting them multiple times And never receive an email back. Are they even still being made? Has anyone heard from them? Thank you for any help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites