Tuckington Report post Posted March 8, 2012 To give you a little back story: I have been sewing on my Pfaff 1245-706/47-6/01 for about a year. Everything I have done has been self taught so it has been a uphill battle. My machine came with 140/22 needles that have worked great for the material I have been using. I'm now at the end of my supply of needles and order new ones what I had thought were exact replacements based on my machine and needle size (140/22). When they arrived I noticed that they are shorter than the ones I have been using by a 1/4 inch or so. I tried one of the new needles and they do not work properly, they don't go down far enough to grab the lower thread. I have included a picture below to show the difference. The needle on the left is the needle size the machine came with and the needle on the right is the new needle. The blue package is what the new needle came out of for reference. My question is, what needle do I need to order to get the correct length? I have scoured the forum and google looking for a definitive answer and cannot find one. Any help would be appreciated. Please excuse the ignorance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
busted Report post Posted March 8, 2012 What is stamped on the end of the size of the needle you are trying to replace? If all else fails drop the needle bar to the height of the new needle. To give you a little back story: I have been sewing on my Pfaff 1245-706/47-6/01 for about a year. Everything I have done has been self taught so it has been a uphill battle. My machine came with 140/22 needles that have worked great for the material I have been using. I'm now at the end of my supply of needles and order new ones what I had thought were exact replacements based on my machine and needle size (140/22). When they arrived I noticed that they are shorter than the ones I have been using by a 1/4 inch or so. I tried one of the new needles and they do not work properly, they don't go down far enough to grab the lower thread. I have included a picture below to show the difference. The needle on the left is the needle size the machine came with and the needle on the right is the new needle. The blue package is what the new needle came out of for reference. My question is, what needle do I need to order to get the correct length? I have scoured the forum and google looking for a definitive answer and cannot find one. Any help would be appreciated. Please excuse the ignorance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuckington Report post Posted March 8, 2012 1331233071[/url]' post='238207']What is stamped on the end of the size of the needle you are trying to replace? If all else fails drop the needle bar to the height of the new needle. Thanks for the reply. The old need is stamped "140/22" The new needle is stamped "schmetz 22/140" I guess my question is do they make a 140/22 that comes in different lengths? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted March 8, 2012 Yes,there is many different lengths of needles that come in a #22,but you probably got 135x17 which SOME 1245's take but it sounds like you need the 190R for your machine. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tuckington Report post Posted March 8, 2012 Yes,there is many different lengths of needles that come in a #22,but you probably got 135x17 which SOME 1245's take but it sounds like you need the 190R for your machine. Bob Yes the new ones are 135X17 and it sounds like you may be right and I need 190R needles. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
busted Report post Posted March 8, 2012 Thanks for the reply. The old need is stamped "140/22" The new needle is stamped "schmetz 22/140" I guess my question is do they make a 140/22 that comes in different lengths? This manual for the 1245 should help a little. www.mansew.com/PFAFF/PFAFF%201245%20INSTRUCTION%20MANUAL.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Art Report post Posted March 8, 2012 The 135x17 will work in place of the 134-35, BUT as Bob said, they also came with the 190 needle system. Measure the needle that works for it's Butt to Eye (BTE) dimension. 44.5 mm is a 190 needle, 38.1 is the 134-35, and 38.9 is the 135x17. Sometimes a machine with a 190 needle system can be made to use 134-35 or 135-17(16) but make sure the needle bar doesn't strike the presser feet or things will go south. For heaver work, try to get the leather point needles. Art Yes the new ones are 135X17 and it sounds like you may be right and I need 190R needles. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
