Members DoubleC Posted May 20, 2012 Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 negative space All that wasted time you put into trying to see I 'got' it. I'm going to make a guitar strap for the first time after I play musical tools now, planned to have it started by now. I got a piece of leather from some different things I bought from one of our members that was a perfect checkbook size. So I decide to make me one and practice inlay at the same time. So I picked what looked like such a simple outline of a horse since Katass has been helping me on the strap and looked at a horse picture I already had and thought it would be too hard to start. Well this is a fairly easy outline except I didn't think about NEGATIVE space. I won't even show it to Mike (Katass, we could use a few different names around here :-) because I'm too embarrassed. A friend of mine's going to try and help me with a solution of inlay/overlay. Am I the only person that makes mistakes everyday, posts their mistakes, or wait, am I on the right forum, LOL. I'm kinda tired, worked on this all night. I really feel badly about the time you worked with me Mike, well and Kevin that one night on negative space. Rotaries will cut leather, suede and your thumb when you forget you're holding it as you turn your leather for another cut and bump your thumb against it. The good news is I'm sewing on my 15-91 a little better....bad news, again lack of foresight, I wanted thread that popped. After first inch I realized at my skill level I wanted thread that hid. It isn't QUITE so deformed looking up close, but bad enough. But I'll use it because it's better than the last one I made from pieces and didn't do right. But I've been using it. gonna take it apart and use those ;pieces I like so well AGAIN on something else, don't know what yet. Good news? This cost me maybe 10 cents total, leather was free, so paint, dye, resolene, thread and a thumb. Lizard a small, small piece from a bag I got from SLC that keeps growing in the dark :-) I learned a lot, much more than those projects that seem touched with magic and go right all the way. I think we should have a mistake thread for everyone to learn from. I could post everyday.......Cheryl Quote http://www.etsy.com/shop/DoubleCCowgirl
Members katsass Posted May 20, 2012 Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 Lord luv a duck! Although not directed at (or to) me (but with my name mentioned) the grumpy old guy will jump in jump in. What was the first thing that I mentioned to you? SLOW THE @$@$% DOWN! Have your basics well in hand. That includes cutting, stitching, and all that stuff. As to the inlay type stuff? --- think silhouette, remember?. That implies (if not specifically stated) strong contrast between background and subject. It also implies simple design, at least to start with. Geometric shapes are ideal as a beginning, like squares rectangles, or shapes with gentle curves. Look at your subject in the form of solid black and white --- NO DETAIL. You need a subject that will produce a complete and recognisable figure --- without the need for distinguishing marks, lines etc. (I have no idea what is going on with the front end of that horse) AGAIN, trying to run before you can even get to all fours is going to frustrate you more than a penguin will become, trying to peel a banana. Mike. Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
Members DoubleC Posted May 20, 2012 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 Busted.....but Mike i can explain. this was a practice run for the strap kinda because it's on hold, my oblong punch wouldn't, have to return it, get another one some where else, and it was just plain idiotic for me to do it and even more so to try and explain. Why do you think I didn't send you a p; picture or ask for some help. I already knew it was a dumb idea (well after the horse turned out deformed....) and I didn't want you to think I'd forgotten what you said. The good news is I'm going to use it, and tell everyone in VT. you made it for me Cheryl Quote http://www.etsy.com/shop/DoubleCCowgirl
Members katsass Posted May 20, 2012 Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 (edited) Busted.....but Mike i can explain. this was a practice run for the strap kinda because it's on hold, my oblong punch wouldn't, have to return it, get another one some where else, and it was just plain idiotic for me to do it and even more so to try and explain. Why do you think I didn't send you a p; picture or ask for some help. I already knew it was a dumb idea (well after the horse turned out deformed....) and I didn't want you to think I'd forgotten what you said. The good news is I'm going to use it, and tell everyone in VT. you made it for me Cheryl If the 'katsass' ain't there, it ain't mine. Mike Edited May 20, 2012 by katsass Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
Members DoubleC Posted May 20, 2012 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 You really are upset with me aren't you? Probably not as upset as I am with myself. I'm the jackass that tried to do the stupid thing. Quote http://www.etsy.com/shop/DoubleCCowgirl
Members katsass Posted May 20, 2012 Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 You really are upset with me aren't you? Probably not as upset as I am with myself. I'm the jackass that tried to do the stupid thing. Not stupid, just too much too soon. As I say, get the basics down well. I did my first inlay after 30 or so years of making holsters. Mike Quote NOTE TO SELF: Never try to hold a cat and an operating Dust buster at the same time!! At my age I find that I can live without sex..........but not without my glasses. Being old has an advantage.......nobody expects me to do anything in a hurry.
Members DoubleC Posted May 20, 2012 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 Well since I have a ton of lizard, and still have plenty of scraps I can practice on those. When I practice I always want it to BE something, but maybe I'll do key fobs or something with snakes, squares, circles, etc. and sew them. I can still make that into a square and remove the deformed horse, and have thought of doing that. Or circle, oval, rectangle. It's salvageable, but no more checkbooks for me until I practice, really. Cheryl Quote http://www.etsy.com/shop/DoubleCCowgirl
Members DoubleC Posted May 20, 2012 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 Not stupid, just too much too soon. As I say, get the basics down well. I did my first inlay after 30 or so years of making holsters. Mike I'm getting ready to whomp a coffee cup down on it and cut out a circle. Will that work or be too big an inlay? Quote http://www.etsy.com/shop/DoubleCCowgirl
Members Nick69 Posted May 20, 2012 Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 One thing to remember about this kind of job is that some things need to be big, some can be small. As Mike and others are talking you through it I wont interrupt but don't lose heart and keep working on it. Quote
Members DoubleC Posted May 20, 2012 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2012 Well Nick the hole is gonna be pretty big. I don't know if I should do that either. I just washed all the conditioner off of it so it wouldn't be slick. I also have a square can of bag balm that I use to condition that will fit over the horse. I think I could use me rotary easier on that with out cutting off my arm, but I think the circle might be stronger in the ,long run, I really don't know. I wish I understood geometry. Cheryl Quote http://www.etsy.com/shop/DoubleCCowgirl
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