Tsc 441 Clone, Necessary Accessories

[Handstitched]

G'Day from Western Australia

I too have a 441 clone . A 'Q Stitch Colt' from Queensland.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40990121@N05/4111321665/in/photostream/

The pic is a bit old now as I now have a slotted plate and the apt feed dog ( not the blanket plate in the pic) , a double toe foot, with a centre groover, and I use that for just about everything.

I did buy an edge guide, but I've never used it. I seem to have developed my own technique of keeping things straight.......practice I guess , ( a good light also helped)

I did go slightly off sewing a gun belt , my friend then said to me "thats called a 'humanity stitch' " ,

I like that

But I am fascinated by the 'French Boxing ' attachment. It would be good to know if anyone here has tried that?

I just bought the accessories that I know that I was likely to use frequently ( apart from the edge guide), and as a result, I've now set up my machine to do a variety of leather sewing jobs, and have the tensions etc just perfect ( that took yonks) , and without having to change plates, feet and feed dogs all the time.

All the best, and Happy Sewing

HS

[Trox]

G`Day to you too,

Thanks for your reply. Your machine looks very nice. Except for the name exactly like mine. I am still waiting for the shipment, it was sent express. It just figures, when you wait on something real bad, the D#%&.. tracking do not work. It only says out of US this date… and no more. The Norwegian tracking never works, they downsizing the Norwegian postal service and let normal grocery shops do the job. The call it “post in store”, I call it disaster. They lay all their trained workers go (with a financially parachute) and let untrained grocery store workers do their work.

The machine works great and I find it especially easy to set the right tension on it, maybe because my experience of older bottom feed stitchers, who are not this easy to adjust.

I too have been looking at that boxing attachment; if somebody has used it please let us know.

I agree the dropdown sewing guide is not that necessary on a low speed machine. I usually make groves for the stitches to lie down in, they are easy to follow. However the guide it is good for other things too, you get extras for it like piping guide etc. http://www.kwokhing.com/da/.

Kwokhing has very nice prices and good service too, they are located in Hong Kong and takes Paypal. I ordered this guide for my machine; it is a bit longer than the others I have from before. I am sure it will fit the clone. KG 967= 24, 60$ and the bracket for the Adler 205 (I think it will fit the Juki too, I am 99% sure it will work) = 5, 80 $. The guide comes with a roller and a long guide (or a zipper guide)

I see the same guides sell on EBay for over 100 $, Kwokhing is the one making it.

My 441 has no threaded hole on the backside to attach the bracket, I have to make them. I just did the same job on my Pfaff cylinder bed; I will post it here when I am done. Once you get use to having a guide like this, you wonder how you did with out it. Especially good for top stitching, where a conventionally guide will not work. I also ordered that piping guide (6, 60 $, coming from one of the worlds most expensive countries, I just love their prices), it fits my two others guides too. I believe they have and will make more sewing attachment that fit’s the suspending guide system. This was a bit free advertising for Kwokhing, but they deserve it. Kwokhing…

Happy sewing to you too,

Greetings

Trox

G'Day from Western Australia

I too have a 441 clone . A 'Q Stitch Colt' from Queensland.

http://www.flickr.co...in/photostream/

The pic is a bit old now as I now have a slotted plate and the apt feed dog ( not the blanket plate in the pic) , a double toe foot, with a centre groover, and I use that for just about everything.

I did buy an edge guide, but I've never used it. I seem to have developed my own technique of keeping things straight.......practice I guess , ( a good light also helped)

I did go slightly off sewing a gun belt , my friend then said to me "thats called a 'humanity stitch' " ,

I like that

But I am fascinated by the 'French Boxing ' attachment. It would be good to know if anyone here has tried that?

I just bought the accessories that I know that I was likely to use frequently ( apart from the edge guide), and as a result, I've now set up my machine to do a variety of leather sewing jobs, and have the tensions etc just perfect ( that took yonks) , and without having to change plates, feet and feed dogs all the time.

All the best, and Happy Sewing

HS

[dirtclod]

I went and looked at all their stuff but didn't see any prices. Do you have email them for a price ?

[Trox]

Hi,

Yes you have to email them, they do not have much for the TSC 441 yet (a couple of feet’s and the blanket plate), but they will start to make that to. A suspending guide (drop down) is from 20 to 25 $, feet’s from 12 to 20 $ and binders from 9 to 15 $. I base this prices upon what I bought from them before. The one I deal with is named Bosco Ko; he is very service minded and helpful person. I send in my order (on mail) and in a day or two, I receive a quote with prices, further pictures and so on. They use Paypal, so it is very safe and easy. They supply mostly for the modern production machines, If you have a special order they can make it too. I have bought guides for two of my other machines (D.A. 267-373 and Pfaff 345); I measured those guides to find out that I needed something a bit longer for the 441. The guide they supply for the DA 205-370 is the same one I have bought for my smaller (above) Adler. That guide looked a bit short for the 441 machine. What kind of equipment do you need?

Trox

I went and looked at all their stuff but didn't see any prices. Do you have email them for a price ?

[dirtclod]

Trox i was mostly looking at their lights. I have a few Singers one Union Special and small flatbed clone machine along with the Juki.

[Trox]

Good lightning is necessary, I have a magnet led lamp that attach under the head, beside the needle bar. Very handy, but only one diode. I purchased mine in Norway, so I do not know the prices for them at Kwokhing. If you buy one, choose one with more than one diode, with diodes on both side of the needle bar. The ones from Kwokhing look good.

Trox

Trox i was mostly looking at their lights. I have a few Singers one Union Special and small flatbed clone machine along with the Juki.

[Singermania]

HI Trox, sorry to hear its difficult to get used heavy machines there, I buy a lot in England, France, Austria and Germany, the 45K range are expecially cheap.. If you come across the Singer 132K6, Adler 5-8, large Koch and United then let me know. regards STeve

[oldtimer]

Steve, is a 132K10 of interest ? I have one collecting dust, located in Sweden

/Knut

[Trox]

HI Trox, sorry to hear its difficult to get used heavy machines there, I buy a lot in England, France, Austria and Germany, the 45K range are expecially cheap.. If you come across the Singer 132K6, Adler 5-8, large Koch and United then let me know. regards STeve

Hi Steve, There is not that many heavy machines for sale here, it is some 45K and Adler 105. Not many triple feeds, those are expensive anywhere. Machines of the upholstery class are very cheap here, because there are no marked for them (no sewing industry anymore). The heavy machines are wanted by people who want to repair their horse tack and such. I do have three heavy machines for sale myself ( I do have a customer or two too) Adler`s 5-27, 105-25 and 204-64. Heavy machines like the 45K flatbed and Singer 7 do not sell much here, Adler are more wanted. The prices depends of the feed type, here like in the rest of the world. Generally Norway have some of the worlds lowest used industrial sewing machines prices.

Regards

Tor