Jimbob Report post Posted July 23, 2012 Having an old trusty Singer 211-155 and slowly thinking about getting a NEW Flatbed like a CONSEW, JUKI or Chandler...I was wondering about the look and style. They all look like they are a mint copy of a Singer 111 and also some parts will fit from a Singer 111.....now my question is: The Singer 211 series is, me assumming....the upgraded and stronger version of the older 111....why are these new machines copied having the Singer 111 as model?? And do I go backwards when I purchase a copy of a 111 instead my 211....of course, I would get a brand new machine.... I just wonder if a new 211 copy exists or if I just should have my 211-155 refurbished and use another 50 years or so.... There are quality differences in a 111 series and a 211...or is it just the design?? I absolutly love my Singer 211-155 ( wish it had reverse!!) but of course the smell of a new sewing machine...hmmm...well guess ya all know what I mean. Maybe some of you guys with a new fladbed can join in and help me out... Thank you James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trox Report post Posted July 25, 2012 Hi James, how are you. What a question, no new machine looks like the 111. Maybe some clones do because it was a good design, an American design bought up by Singer. The 111 is also capable to sew a bit thicker than the 211, that what I have heard. I do not want to test it because I live in the world of Dürkopp Adler. Did you see that link I sent you from EBay (LW comments forum front side) about the DA 767, it is a machine hard to find used to a good price. It has everything, alternating height on the wheel on top of the head, large hook and long stitch length. Bought in Europe it always comes with an Efka motor and air foot lift, backtacking etc. I have seen them priced to almost 10 K $ used over here. I have a new DA 267-373 with Efka DC motor, those positions motors does your work very much faster. I am also upgrading my latest 441 clone with that kind of motor Efka 1550 or Ho Sing HVP 70 or 90. That kind of high-end motor makes all the difference. Depending of how much you will use your new machine every day, an eight hour production machine or a now and then use. The first require a new DA (Dürkopp Adler), Pfaff or a Juki, the second a Chinese clone will serve you. If you look for a new design of machine you must look at DA`s new machines like the 867, 667 or 367 M types of machines. James you of all should know this. But living in the USA I would have a look at those Juki 1500 or 2200 series machines, nobody ever talks bad about their quality. Trox Having an old trusty Singer 211-155 and slowly thinking about getting a NEW Flatbed like a CONSEW, JUKI or Chandler...I was wondering about the look and style. They all look like they are a mint copy of a Singer 111 and also some parts will fit from a Singer 111.....now my question is: The Singer 211 series is, me assumming....the upgraded and stronger version of the older 111....why are these new machines copied having the Singer 111 as model?? And do I go backwards when I purchase a copy of a 111 instead my 211....of course, I would get a brand new machine.... I just wonder if a new 211 copy exists or if I just should have my 211-155 refurbished and use another 50 years or so.... There are quality differences in a 111 series and a 211...or is it just the design?? I absolutly love my Singer 211-155 ( wish it had reverse!!) but of course the smell of a new sewing machine...hmmm...well guess ya all know what I mean. Maybe some of you guys with a new fladbed can join in and help me out... Thank you James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
