Tippmann Boss

[Iron Pounder]

Then I guess the bobbin must be WAY too tight. If I grab the thread coming out of the plate with my thumb and index and bear down on the thread as hard as I can it will slip from my fingers before I can pull any thread from the bobbin. When I put two fingers on it and my thumb and pull I can pull some out. I'm pulling this to the rear of the machine in line of how I would stitch.

I have the top set to what the factory says wouldnt that mean I would have to back off the top a good bit? This is just my slack of expierence but I will get there.

Edited July 29, 2012 by Iron Pounder

[JRodz]

I would leave th top as is and just loosen the bobbin tension and start from there.

[Denster]

I would leave th top as is and just loosen the bobbin tension and start from there.

Right on the money. Most folks set their bobbin tension way to tight and it is the source of many of the reported problems. A light, about 1lb drag on the bobbin. Set the top tension to factory reccomendations and do any tweaking with the primary tensioner.

[mlapaglia]

Start 2 stitches out. Call them 0 1 2. 0 is at the start of the leather and 2 is where you make the first stitch and 1 is between them. Stitch #2 pull back and stitch #1 pull back and stitch #0 then go forward like normal and stitch the line. Thats how I start them and its fine. I have also just done 0 1 and it works but 0 1 2 is really strong and the bottom isnt nasty looking.

[Iron Pounder]

I looked at an old Boss manual and it shows the secondary being wound the other direction from how I put it. I would guess the way I have it makes it much tighter on the top which would make sense that it could work with the bobbin being so tight. I'm going to change the top and take some tension out of the bottom and see how it goes. It seems odd they would have set it way too tight from the factory.

Mlapaglia, I will have a go at the way you do it once I get the tension set right. I can tell the thing is going to sew great once I get myself dialed in. Do you have a picture so I know when I have it right? You can email it to me if you don't want to post it.

[mlapaglia]

I looked at an old Boss manual and it shows the secondary being wound the other direction from how I put it. I would guess the way I have it makes it much tighter on the top which would make sense that it could work with the bobbin being so tight. I'm going to change the top and take some tension out of the bottom and see how it goes. It seems odd they would have set it way too tight from the factory.

Mlapaglia, I will have a go at the way you do it once I get the tension set right. I can tell the thing is going to sew great once I get myself dialed in. Do you have a picture so I know when I have it right? You can email it to me if you don't want to post it.

Im out of town in Tucson for the week but Ill try to make something in a draw program for you.

Give me a day or 2

FYI my tensions routing are, Secondary is counter-clockwise and primary is clockwise as far as I remember.

Michael

I got some simple drawings done. Hope this helps. If not call me. 303 eight eight one 1045

If you can turn the leather in the throat this works.

If you cant then this is the method I described in my other post. Hope you can understand them.

Edited July 31, 2012 by mlapaglia

[Iron Pounder]

I got it now. Thank you for the drawings the first is how I do it when I can turn everything. I will try the way you do it when you can't turn and see if I have any luck. I had both tensioners going clockwise but the old manual show I needed to change the secondary to counter clockwise. We love Tucson!! I have a fair amount of family in Casa Grande and try to get down that way when we can. Have a great trip.

[mlapaglia]

If the tension is working leave it but I believe you will have a better time with the one counter clockwise

I grew up in Tucson so I still like it as a place to visit.

[Iron Pounder]

I changed the secondary tensioner to ccw and decreased the bobbin tension a bit. So far I really like the way it stitches. I now need to try and get corners to look better. Any tips on making corners looks as good as a straight section?

[mlapaglia]

I changed the secondary tensioner to ccw and decreased the bobbin tension a bit. So far I really like the way it stitches. I now need to try and get corners to look better. Any tips on making corners looks as good as a straight section?

Only one, Practice, Practice, Practice. I take it slow and turn the leather as the needle pulls the leather back. Makes it easier but it takes practice.