Durkopp-Adler 267 Vs Pfaff 1245

[seweng]

If the Adler 267-373 is a German made version in good condition, it’s a fair price. Later Durkopp Adler 267-373 models are made in China and can be purchased much cheaper than the German models used to cost.

Beware that both Durkopp and Pfaff charge high prices for spare parts and feet. After market feet are available at much cheaper prices.

[Ash]

thanks everyone for the suggestions and tips.

I got a new offer, it's a PFAFF 1245 yellow (so Germany made in the 90's, isn't it?) completely restored with a servomotor Efka (vd 552) at 1000 euros. Sounds good?

[Trox]

I have a German DA 267-373 with Efka DC 1600 still in new condition, I is a dream to use. However I know the Pfaff 1245 is a very good machine too. I have mostly heavy Adler machines and I love them. However, I got a small Pfaff 345 (triple feed cylinder bed) I am using. It is old but still very good. Old Pfaff machines are very well made, I have never seen better steel quality in plates and feet`s. The feet`s are so hard it is almost impossible to alter them, (it will take more time anyway) It made like a Swiss watch.

Like Seweng told you the Pfaff spare part prices are extremely high, thats because they are hand made in Germany. Here in Europe Pfaff part cost about the double of DA parts. Example from Norway, a high priced country ; a binding needle plate for my Pfaff 345 costs 750,- euro (960,- $). A needle plate for my Adler 204 costs 299,-Euro ( 382,- $)

You can get aftermarket parts like feet`s, shuttles and plates from Kwokhing.com to very good prices.

[seweng]

As a rough guide only

Pfaff colours

Grey = 1970’s and before

Yellow = 1980’s

White = 1990’s +

[Ash]

they have told me that is:

grey: 1980's

yellow: 1990's

white: 2000's

[seweng]

It’s only a rough guide and some of the colours may have entered the earlier part of the next decade. The white colour was definitely introduced in the 1990’s, so you can push the supplier of the Yellow machine for a discount as they will probably beware it’s an old revision. Make sure its supplied with the feet you need included in the price (Pfaff feet are expensive).

[Ash]

thanks for the details.

just a question: is possible to use a single needle machine as a 2-needle machine? I mean, is there an accessorize that permit to make a parallell stitch that can be used in one of the sewing machine above?

thanks

[seweng]

no, you can not use a single needle as a twin needle machine. They are different machines.

[Trox]

thanks for the details.

just a question: is possible to use a single needle machine as a 2-needle machine? I mean, is there an accessorize that permit to make a parallell stitch that can be used in one of the sewing machine above?

thanks

Normally not, however you can build the DA 267 in to a two needle with a special kit. Both needles will then use the same bobbin thread, so it will not become a true 2 needle machine. I think http://www.kwokhing.com/da/ have this kit, or It is available from Dürkopp Adler.

Trox

[Ash]

That's what I mean! Thanks a lot Trox.. This tip drive me toward the DA...