Vinegaroon And Boning

[Chef niloc]

O I didn't answer your question, I use ph test strips, the kind you would get in a chemistry lab.

[J Hayes]

Thanks!

I've been told copper in vinegar will yield a teal color, but I haven't tried it.

[Chef niloc]

Thanks!

I've been told copper in vinegar will yield a teal color, but I haven't tried it.

I believe that, the way it seems to me is that the "dye" color reflects the oxidized color of metal. So aluminum or tin might lighten the color of leather since they oxide is white? That could come in handy if that's the case. Be it would be an expensive "dye" to make silver should produce a very deep black. The thing I like most about using the roon that that the color Is very deep and consistent, it's easy to work with, and doesn't rub off or wash out.

[J Hayes]

That's why I wanted to start using roon, lack of rub off and color throughout. I would be great to find other formulas that work the same way.

[Bobby hdflame]

I have been using Vinegaroon myself for several reasons. I wanted to share my experiences with you too.

Someone said not to let the Vinegaroon come in contact with your gun. I don't remember exactly why I had an LCP in a pocket holster without it being in a plastic bag, but it was for a short time and the Vinegaroon caused some removal and light rust of the finish. Lesson learned!

Other things I've experienced:

The vinegar smell does go away after a while.

I have used baking soda washes and not, and have not noticed any difference in the finished product. Maybe it will show up years down the road?? I did use neatsfoot oil after vinegaroon. The oil also turns the finished product a much darker black.

Wet form and bone before vinegaroon. I think the vinegaroon adds some water resistance to the leather. I also leave the gun in the holster while it dries. I vinegaroon after it dries from wet forming and boning.

Since the iron in the vinegar reacts with the tannins in the leather to turn it black, rusty water could be used instead and avoid the vinegar smell. Will Ghormely shows this on his website. He uses a steel barrel with scrap metal in it to dye holsters. Here's his how to. It's close to the bottom of the page. http://www.willghormley-maker.com/MakingHOGRig.html

[url=http://www.willghormley-maker.com/MakingHOGRig.html%20%20I][/url] I have not personally tried this but it seems to work well for him. He also shows his technique to age the holster by rubbing wax in areas that you want it to look worn. This keeps the vinegaroon from absorbing into the leather which is what some of you have experienced while using waxed thread.

You will/can get some black on your hands when using the vinegaroon but it washes/wears off pretty quickly. I have not experienced it wearing off onto clothing after it completely dries. I have had Fiebing's Professional Oil Dye and the USMC Black wear off especially on belts even after thorough drying and buffing and sealing with Leather Balm w/Atom Wax.

You can Vinegaroon after stitching without turning your natural colored thread, black. Can't do that the with dye!

You can submerge your leather or brush it on. Depending on what I'm dyeing, I've done both with equally good results.

And another reason I like using Vinegaroon....it's cheap to make!

All in all, I like it and have used it more than Fiebings since I first tried it!

BTW, using other metals does sound interesting. Be sure to post your findings.

Edited February 12, 2013 by Bobby hdflame

[Heiney]

Ok I know this is an old post but I just mixed a batch of "copperoon". I'll post back with results.