Adler 205-370

[Rubederubes]

Thank you all for sharing your knowledge with me.

I shall look out for a more medium duty machine. Either the Adler 269 or 69.

Thanks again!

[Art]

If you're going to pull the trigger, the Adler 867 (get a German one) with an Efka positioning motor is the way I'd go.

Art

Thank you all for sharing your knowledge with me.

I shall look out for a more medium duty machine. Either the Adler 269 or 69.

Thanks again!

[dirtclod]

Quote.....Despise what the dealers will tell you; the heavy stitcher's are no good on light stuff.

Trox i disagree with you on that. here are a couple of pictures i took tonight of some pieces i sewed on my Pro 2000 with 277 on top and 207 on the bottom. No tension adjustment. The pink is 3 ounce folded once the other is 4 pieces of 12 ounce. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/dirtclod50/stuff%20i%20made/1FRONT.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/dirtclod50/stuff%20i%20made/1BACK.jpg

[Rubederubes]

Oh gosh, I'm confused now, isn't an 867 a flatbed? Why would you go for that over the Adler cylinder arms?

[Trox]

Quote.....Despise what the dealers will tell you; the heavy stitcher's are no good on light stuff.

Trox i disagree with you on that. here are a couple of pictures i took tonight of some pieces i sewed on my Pro 2000 with 277 on top and 207 on the bottom. No tension adjustment. The pink is 3 ounce folded once the other is 4 pieces of 12 ounce. http://img.photobuck...de/1FRONT.jpg http://img.photobuck... made/1BACK.jpg

Hi, nice stitches. I classify this work as heavy, remember very few machines of the upholstery class can sew with more than tex 207/138. I use my 441 with threads like that too. I use my upholstery class machines with threads from tkt 40 to 15 (tex 69 to 207), any thicker I use my 441 or heavy Adler's. I think we agree on this anyway.

Thanks

Tor

Rubederubes,

You are right, the 867 is the latest flatbed triple feed of the upholstery class. Arm machines ends on 69, the 69 is a horizontal hook small arm that will not take heavy threads, the 269 has a vertical hook with more capacity. New machines today is 669 horizontal hook and 869 vertical hook. I do not know what you budget is, these machines are pretty expensive new. All is of the upholstery class, the 869 will sew with threads up to tkt 10/3 (tex 270). The 669 will sew with threads up too tkt 15/3 (tex 207). Both machines has feed dog that can be deactivated with a few steps and can be used for binding operations, this is a new feature you do not see on many other machines.

Thanks

Tor

[Rubederubes]

My head now hurts and is spinning with machine numbers and information!! Decisions, decisions! I don't know which way to jump.

Thanks again for all your help though.

[Rubederubes]

After some more research I have come across the Highlead GC2698 (£1295 plus Vat) and the Global and Wimsew equivalents. They are much cheaper than the new Adlers and I would have the reassurance of buying a new machine. I would be really grateful for your opinions on them please?

Thanks again

[seweng]

The Highlead GC2698 and Durkopp 69 will handle similar weight work and are probably more medium weight machines. There are a lot of copies about so make sure which ever you buy, that it is genuine and has a warranty from the makers.

[Art]

It is a good cylinder arm machine. There are two versions, the -1 has a smaller bobbin and the -1B has a big bobbin. Medium Duty, 3/8" or less total. Highlead machines are very good.

Art

[Les No6]

Highlead GC2698 and Global WF9335 are Chinese copies of the Pfaff 335 the Highlead GC2268 and Global WF970 are Seiko LCW8B copies same size of machine but takes a heavier needle there’s no difference between Highlead and Global just a different paint job. And parts are interchangeable between the copies and originals. One other point is that the machines will have quite aggressive teeth on the feet and bottom needle guide (feed dog as some refer) these will mark your leather they serve no actual purpose, so mention when you buy that you want a smooth feed set for leather, this should be no problem, but if it is and you go for the 335 copy Pfaff do a leather feed set which will fit but you can just grind the teeth of the feet the bottom needle guide just fill in the teeth with metal epoxy but make sure it doesn’t void your warranty.