Members leatherdog Posted May 31, 2013 Members Report Posted May 31, 2013 Tor the 169 - yes, low miles. but, that's a lot of work to trade machines across a continent and an ocean. plus all the boxing up, and wouldn't there be electricity issues? you are on 50 cycles, we are on 60. ? anyway, the 345 i'd like to have would not be set up for binding. just handling the leather. the omac. the red light is on-off. no heat. it has a foot bar to press to make the thing go. it is a strap edge folder. you can see the opening, and it is adjustable, opens equally from the center. it is on a threaded shaft, with different threads on each side, so when you turn the black knob at the lower left, the gap either opens or closes a bit. the silver knob above it moves the folders forward or back, in or away from the roller, depending on leather thickness, preferences. you can see it is set up for center fold. there is another finger thing, with the black knob, sitting off to the side, it can be put in the chute, with the other one, and you can fold to whatever width of fold you want. makes sense? it takes stiff leather with a skived edge, or soft leather with an insert. something to fold against. great idea, we just don't use it. when we got it, it had a 50 cyl ac motor. made a nice burning smell till it died. i had it rewound to 60 cyl. very happy now. Quote
Members PcCowboy Posted May 31, 2013 Members Report Posted May 31, 2013 PcCowboy gee, that would be great. i just sent you an email....... Peter Sorry, I see I made a mistake. Mine is a 205-370 Quote We don't just build saddles, we create them.
Members leatherdog Posted May 31, 2013 Members Report Posted May 31, 2013 i see. is it the service manual or the user's manual? Quote
Trox Posted May 31, 2013 Report Posted May 31, 2013 Tor the 169 - yes, low miles. but, that's a lot of work to trade machines across a continent and an ocean. plus all the boxing up, and wouldn't there be electricity issues? you are on 50 cycles, we are on 60. ? anyway, the 345 i'd like to have would not be set up for binding. just handling the leather. the omac. the red light is on-off. no heat. it has a foot bar to press to make the thing go. it is a strap edge folder. you can see the opening, and it is adjustable, opens equally from the center. it is on a threaded shaft, with different threads on each side, so when you turn the black knob at the lower left, the gap either opens or closes a bit. the silver knob above it moves the folders forward or back, in or away from the roller, depending on leather thickness, preferences. you can see it is set up for center fold. there is another finger thing, with the black knob, sitting off to the side, it can be put in the chute, with the other one, and you can fold to whatever width of fold you want. makes sense? it takes stiff leather with a skived edge, or soft leather with an insert. something to fold against. great idea, we just don't use it. when we got it, it had a 50 cyl ac motor. made a nice burning smell till it died. i had it rewound to 60 cyl. very happy now. Yes Peter, it makes sence now and it was my first guess too. I did not recognize the kind of front it has. Nice machine, it may come in handy sometimes. You never know what the future jobs brings. No I am not thinking about your Adler, I will find one here eventually. I have seen many nice 69- 373 with the narrow cylinder. Those are handy but would not replace the 345 (cannot take heavy threads), and no room to keep both machines. I will wait to I find a nice 169 or newer, then I would look in to it. I am talking about exporting many machines at once. Transport costs are very low these days, I would wait until I had a 20 foot container full before shipping by sea. Motors are different we use 220/50 cyl (and maybe moving up to 380/400 in the future for normal household, our three phase is 400v). I do not see motors as a problem, clutch motors would be changed for servos anyway. If a machine should happen to have a modern Efka DC I would buy on a converter. Otherwise, both tables and motors are cheap in your country. They do not sell those cheap Chinese servo`s here, I bought the one I have from Cobra. Up until now the Chinese have been behind on motor technology, my guess is that they are working hard to catch up with Japan and Germany. I have seen several new model who looks promising, they look like clones of Efka and Ho Sing. And they may well be, there systems are old enough to be legal to copy and they are put together in China anyway. http://www.cccme.org.cn/shop/cccme3825/offerinfo-1033966.aspx http://www.cccme.org.cn/shop/cccme3825/offerinfo-1033976.aspx No way to tell before trying one. Soon there will be usable cheap motors available, no point in shipping those old heavy outdated motors anyway. The converter cost more than a Chinese servo does. I am just thinking out load, its a pity to waist all those nice old machines if someone need them other places. We will see what the future brings, if only the world will get out of this stupid economical crisis people will start buying stuff again. Cheers Tor Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members PcCowboy Posted June 4, 2013 Members Report Posted June 4, 2013 i see. is it the service manual or the user's manual? I got both Quote We don't just build saddles, we create them.
Members leatherdog Posted June 4, 2013 Members Report Posted June 4, 2013 gee, would it be possible to get copies of those? even though the 64 is different from the 370, there would be a lot in common. gotta make do with what i can get my hands on, as they say. ?? Quote
Members PcCowboy Posted June 4, 2013 Members Report Posted June 4, 2013 I have them in PDF format. Problem is they are 10 mb and 12 mb big. can't upload them or email them. Trying to find a way to compress a PDF file to a smaller size. Quote We don't just build saddles, we create them.
Trox Posted June 4, 2013 Report Posted June 4, 2013 Peter, the service manual for the 205-370 and for the 205-64 is on DA`site http://www.duerkopp-adler.com/export/sites/duerkoppadler/commons/download/public/205/s_204_gb.pdf http://www.duerkopp-adler.com/export/sites/duerkoppadler/commons/download/public/205-370/s_204_370.pdf Maybe you knew that? and here http://sew24.blogspot.no/p/downloads.html Nice handle attachment for the 370 by the way http://sew24.blogspot.no/2012/09/hochwertige-taschengriffe-aus-leder.html Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members PcCowboy Posted June 5, 2013 Members Report Posted June 5, 2013 Trox, thanks for the fine. Good work. Quote We don't just build saddles, we create them.
Members leatherdog Posted June 10, 2013 Members Report Posted June 10, 2013 I have them in PDF format. Problem is they are 10 mb and 12 mb big. can't upload them or email them. Trying to find a way to compress a PDF file to a smaller size. noted. thanks for the effort....... Peter, the service manual for the 205-370 and for the 205-64 is on DA`site http://www.duerkopp-...05/s_204_gb.pdf http://www.duerkopp-...0/s_204_370.pdf Maybe you knew that? and here http://sew24.blogspo.../downloads.html Nice handle attachment for the 370 by the way http://sew24.blogspo...-aus-leder.html i'll dig into that . thank you...... Quote
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