Members J Hayes Posted March 10, 2013 Members Report Posted March 10, 2013 I have a Singer 153w101 and have been using 138 bonded nylon top and bottom on 2 layers of 5-6 oz oil tanned for bags and a 22 leather needle, I'm happy with the way it works. I can also sew 2 layers 8/9 oz vegtan with the same thread/needle combo, I've polished the dog so the tracks are very minimal even on the vegtan. My situation is this , gun store I help out at wants some holsters but cheaper than I care to hand stitch them for. Can I run 207 in my Singer? I will buy a heavy stitcher soon but if I can fill a few orders for him in the meantime and save the hand stitching for my customers can I do it? I say 207 top and bottom because even if I run 277 top its still only as strong as the weaker thread. Thanks everyone Jeremy Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted March 11, 2013 Moderator Report Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) Pre-load some tightly wound bobbins with #207. Buy pre-lubricated thread and use it top and bottom, Wind the top thread once around the post on top of the machine for added resistance. Set her up with a #24 leather point needle and screw down the pressure spring on the presser foot. You'll probably have to screw down the upper tension spring in all the way to pull the knots up into the bottom layer. Sew slowly, at about 1 or 2 stitches per second. If you are careful, you can turn out some pancake holsters on that machine, with #207, pre-lubricated thread. Don't expect the machine to perform flawlessly using this setup, or for very long. You will be pushing it beyond its 9th life. Edited March 11, 2013 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members J Hayes Posted March 11, 2013 Author Members Report Posted March 11, 2013 Thanks. I don't want to ruin my machine in the process, I'm kinda fond of it. I'd probably handwheel most of it anyway. Jeremy Quote
Members billymac814 Posted March 11, 2013 Members Report Posted March 11, 2013 In the event you purchase a bigger machine and want to sell the Singer let me know, Id be interested in it. Thanks. I don't want to ruin my machine in the process, I'm kinda fond of it. I'd probably handwheel most of it anyway. Jeremy Quote www.mccabescustomleather.com
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted March 11, 2013 Moderator Report Posted March 11, 2013 I neglected to specify that you should loosen the bobbin tension screw until there is just a slight pull on the thread. This will give the top tension a little breathing room for adjustment. Ya see, if you screw the top spring all the way in, there is no room left for the disks to move apart and free the thread, when you raise the feet to remove the work. Also, insert the bobbin so it feeds backwards into the slot in the bobbin case. This helps prevent your tightly wound bobbins from unloading into the case as you speed up and slow down.. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members J Hayes Posted March 11, 2013 Author Members Report Posted March 11, 2013 Billy I'll keep you in mind, but I don't see myself selling it though, made a flatbed for it so its pretty versital for me and sews the bags I make really well. Wiz Sounds like more work than its worth, especially since its running really nice right now. Jeremy Quote
Members billymac814 Posted March 12, 2013 Members Report Posted March 12, 2013 No problem, I figured I'd ask, I'd like to add a small cylinder arm machine. Back on your topic though, how many holsters need stitched? It would probably be worth your while to outsource the stitching rather than try to mess up your machine or hand stitch them. Plus they will look better and be stronger with a heavier thread. If you had all your stitching lines marked it wouldn't cost much for one of us to stitch them up and send them back. Quote www.mccabescustomleather.com
Members J Hayes Posted March 13, 2013 Author Members Report Posted March 13, 2013 Billy Never hurts to ask. I like the 153w101, I think the CB2700 is its clone with reverse. If you find get it. I've 6 iwbs laying here now for the "shop" , he wants 6 more owb with a thumb break and I think 6 without, and I think we got more blueguns coming. I am working on getting a bigger machine to do those orders saving the hand stitching for my personal customers, not that im back logged with those. Some people appreciate it more than others and are willing to pay a bit more for the hand work. I do have a friend a bit over an hours drive has offered me use of his Pro 2000 , might have to do that in the interim. Jeremy Quote
Members billymac814 Posted March 13, 2013 Members Report Posted March 13, 2013 I'm waiting for Bob to get more of the 227r in and will probably get one of those. I probably would have had one in December when I was there but the one he had was sold. I wouldn't pass on a used singer or something similar though. I'm still debating trading in my 206rb for one or keeping it and buying a used machine. Quote www.mccabescustomleather.com
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted March 13, 2013 Moderator Report Posted March 13, 2013 Don't get rid of your Consew Billy. You may need it to sew vests. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
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