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Couldn't he just put the flat table attachment on the cylinder arm in place of his 206?

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Thats kinda what I was thinking

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That's what I was thinking too actually. bob keeps talking me out of it though. I do use the Consew for sewing zippers in jackets and some large patches on vests/ jackets but I feel I could do that all on a cylinder machine with a flat bed attachment. I'm not too worried about the smaller bobbin size because I'm not doing big production work and I just don't use it that often, most of the things I make and the things I repair need a cylinder arm machine which leaves me to either use the 4500 or a patcher. The 4500 works for most things but its too big for some without making a lot of adjustments to use the thinner thread sizes and you can't use leather point needles for thinner threads. I could just wait and buy one outright and keep the 206 but there's some other things higher on the priority list so I'd be waiting a while. I'm picking up a Claes patcher this weekend which is going to tie up my machine money. Bob doesn't have one yet so I have some time to think about it.

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That's what I was thinking too actually. bob keeps talking me out of it though. I do use the Consew for sewing zippers in jackets and some large patches on vests/ jackets but I feel I could do that all on a cylinder machine with a flat bed attachment. I'm not too worried about the smaller bobbin size because I'm not doing big production work and I just don't use it that often, most of the things I make and the things I repair need a cylinder arm machine which leaves me to either use the 4500 or a patcher. The 4500 works for most things but its too big for some without making a lot of adjustments to use the thinner thread sizes and you can't use leather point needles for thinner threads. I could just wait and buy one outright and keep the 206 but there's some other things higher on the priority list so I'd be waiting a while. I'm picking up a Claes patcher this weekend which is going to tie up my machine money. Bob doesn't have one yet so I have some time to think about it.

What thread do you normally use on the 4500 , and how much smaller can you go without adjusting a bunch of stuff?

I just put the table on my 153w101 today, took about 60 seconds, actually took me longer to find my C clamps than to install it.

Talked to Steve, got a Juki Pro 2000 on its way to me.

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I normally run 277 on my 4500 for my holsters and belts. I can go from 138 to 346(never tried anything bigger) without changing tension. 92 takes some adjustment and I haven't tried anything thinner than that with it. I really think I'd use a 227r or something similar a whole lot more than I use the 206rb. I may just keep my eyes open for something used and keep the Consew though, it would probably cost about the same as trading in my Consew for a new 227r and since I don't really "need" it I can get by with what I have until I find the right deal on one. Plus after I get the Claes patcher I'm going to move my Adler into the secondary or backup patcher and sell the Singer I have that is my current backup so I can use that money towards something, I also have a post machine that I don't often use that I could probably do without.

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Billymac What post bed machine do you have? I have a singer 136-100 I might like one with a longer stitch. I use it quite a bit on canvas & nylon bags with 4 oz leather bottoms.

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Mine is a Singer 51w31. I'm not too familiar with post he'd machines so I don't know how that compares to the one you have.

Billymac What post bed machine do you have? I have a singer 136-100 I might like one with a longer stitch. I use it quite a bit on canvas & nylon bags with 4 oz leather bottoms.

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