Adler 205-6 Advice

[avimeso]

anyone know what these machines are equal too? Im after something that can sew up breastplates and western bridle browbands.

was going to buy a singer 45k/25. which machine is better? do they sew the same thickness?

Edited April 9, 2013 by avimeso

[Trox]

anyone know what these machines are equal too? Im after something that can sew up breastplates and western bridle browbands.

was going to buy a singer 45k/25. which machine is better? do they sew the same thickness?

Hi are you sure about the subclass number on this 205-6 machine, or is it a 205-64? To answer you I must have the right machine class and subclass.

Tor

[avimeso]

theres a machine here called 205-6... i found out it does about 6mm.

i decided its not heavy duty enough for me. i want a 3/4 inch one but they go for like 3500+ here

Edited April 10, 2013 by avimeso

[Trox]

theres a machine here called 205-6... i found out it does about 6mm.

i decided its not heavy duty enough for me. i want a 3/4 inch one but they go for like 3500+ here

Your info is wrong, no Adler 205 does only 6 mm. The 205 is the extra heavy duty cylinder arm class from Dürkopp Adler. Its the subclass number who is wrong "-6", I cannot find it. The forerunner the 105 has a subclass -6, but the 205 does not. As far as I know, but nothing surprise me with DA it can be a special model. But more likely you got the wrong class or subclass number. However, one thing is for sure; if it exist it will sew more than 6 mm.

Tor

[avimeso]

http://bit.ly/ZMC2Er

That's the machine

[Trox]

http://bit.ly/ZMC2Er

That's the machine

Yes, you are right it is a 205-6, I do remember it now. I also found it in my 205 adjustment/service manual. It is a bottom feed only, same feed as the Singer 45K-25. The material is feed with the feed dog only.

This machine will sew up 12 to 14 mm of material and take up to a Nm 260 needle. Maximum thread size tkt 8 to 6 (tex 400 to 500). Needle system 328, adjusted to needle sys. 328 LR size 200. It has a king size bobbin, same shuttle as Juki 441 and DA 205-370. The advantages compared to the 45K-25 is a bigger bobbin; it holds more and thicker thread. It has a modern big/heavy hand wheel with a V belt gouge. The 45K use leather round drive-belts that does not work that well, it tends to slip with heavy load (it can be fixed).

This machine has a roulette roller foot who works better on leather that the stock foot does. It`s German engineering and quality on its best with a beautiful stitch. 10 mm stitch length forward and revers on both machines. The 45K-25 might be without revers, I am not sure. The 45K is obsolete but allot of parts is still available. All part is still available for the Adler machine.

Both machines will mark up the bottom side of your veg tan leather projects because of the feed dog, and have difficulties feeding true different heights of material (climbing). To avoid these problems you need a triple feed X heavy machine set up for leather work; like a Juki 441 or Adler 204-370, original or clones. Example are Cobra 3 and 4, Cowboy 3500 or 4500 (9 and 16,5 inch arms). They start at 2200 $ set up for leather work.

Because of the bottom feed they compare to a new machine like the Cowboy 2500 or equivalent (1300 $ with reverse) This will also decide the trade in value of the machine. The Adler will be worth more than it and the Singer less. However, they all do the same job; sew heavy leather with thick thread. Unfortunately they all mark up the bottom side of the leather, to avoid this you must spend more dollars.

I hope this helps, there is allot of information about this subject in this forum. Use the search engine or Google if you need more.

Good luck

Tor

Edited April 10, 2013 by Trox

[avimeso]

where would a 133k8 fit in against these machines?

[Trox]

where would a 133k8 fit in against these machines?

Lighter duty rating